Section Rules - Halo 3 Modding Q&A

xI_V3n93ance_Ix · Post by **xI_V3n93ance_Ix** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:50 am

@doogie1012
Dont you think if it would be that easy someone would try it ?
And even, we cant resign normal .map files.
I didnt try a look on the images (too lazy to put my HDD to my PC), but I think that they´re in an PIRS or LIVE container which cant be resigned and will never be able without the private key.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:38 am

doogie1012 wrote:Will we easily be able to mod actual maps now that we can get the game to run off the HDD? Or does it do a comparison between the disc and the installed version?

As stated, it is still impossible, and likely always will be, to resign map files. The workaround to this is modifying the executable to run maps that aren't resigned, and doing so requires the ability to run unsigned code. With them running off the hard drive, we are no closer to being able to do this, in fact, it would probably be harder to do now than it was before.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:36 am

Modding maps on the HDD is actually harder considering they have hash tables.

Themandyou · Post by **Themandyou** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:51 pm

Tural wrote:
doogie1012 wrote:Will we easily be able to mod actual maps now that we can get the game to run off the HDD? Or does it do a comparison between the disc and the installed version?
As stated, it is still impossible, and likely always will be, to resign map files. The workaround to this is modifying the executable to run maps that aren't resigned, and doing so requires the ability to run unsigned code. With them running off the hard drive, we are no closer to being able to do this, in fact, it would probably be harder to do now than it was before.

What's with some older 360s being able to run Linux then?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 6:21 pm

Um, because they have older, exploitable firmware. What does that have to do with what I said? I never even said anything like that. He asked about an NXE feature. No retail console upgraded to NXE can run Linux, or any unsigned code, at this current time. I never said it has always been impossible to run unsigned code, and I never said that exploits were never made. I am specifically referring to Halo 3, and since Halo 3 has been out, console firmware has been too recent to exploit like that. What you're asking about has nothing to do with anything we're talking about.

Themandyou · Post by **Themandyou** » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:40 pm

Yeah, sorry. That wasn't what I meant. When you said you need a modified executable to run unsigned maps, I took it as you can't do that on a retail console. My questions was supposed to be "So could older 360s run unisgned maps with the modded .xbe?" Which, you're right, has nothing to do with the NXE feature.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:16 am

Themandyou wrote:Yeah, sorry. That wasn't what I meant. When you said you need a modified executable to run unsigned maps, I took it as you can't do that on a retail console. My questions was supposed to be "So could older 360s run unisgned maps with the modded .xbe?" Which, you're right, has nothing to do with the NXE feature.

*Modded xex.

CompKronos · Post by **CompKronos** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:23 pm

Wait Tural I have one question, Can't the infectus chip downgrade the modern recent firmware (excluding the NXE) to exploitable editions (not exploited but exploit-able) firmware?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:28 pm

I was under the impression that recent firmwares could not be downgraded, but I have not personally researched it. I may just have old information.

skyliner99 · Post by **skyliner99** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:14 pm

I'm pretty sure the infectus chips down graded with the timing attack exploit which I am 95% sure is now patched.

Gruntlord5 · Post by **Gruntlord5** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:59 am

we were just discussing this on modhalo. you are 100% correct. that only works on older 360`s.

kornman00 · Post by **kornman00** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:19 pm

Whats the topic of this thread again?

Oh right, Halo 3 Modding Q&A, almost forgot

+1 post

Gruntlord5 · Post by **Gruntlord5** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:25 am

lol. its kind of related, but youre right, back on topic.

Can I see a video of someone driving the forklift? It looks cool from the
pictures.

ManBearPig_06 · Post by **ManBearPig_06** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:47 am

^ from the pictures, it looks like they added a scorpion seat.

mxrider108 · Post by **mxrider108** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:20 pm

Gruntlord5 wrote:lol. its kind of related, but youre right, back on topic.

Can I see a video of someone driving the forklift? It looks cool from the
pictures.

Indeed that would be cool to see..

xI_V3n93ance_Ix · Post by **xI_V3n93ance_Ix** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:08 pm

Ok, I found a nasty little bug and I want to know if it could gettin fixed by modding the film.

Its about big films in Halo 3.
It looks like if a film is longer than 30 minutes all the Armor data gets lost.
I have about 5 examples on my box and want to know if it could be fixed by changing "something".

M715ForLife · Post by **M715ForLife** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:17 pm

xI_V3n93ance_Ix wrote:Ok, I found a nasty little bug and I want to know if it could gettin fixed by modding the film.

Its about big films in Halo 3.
It looks like if a film is longer than 30 minutes all the Armor data gets lost.
I have about 5 examples on my box and want to know if it could be fixed by changing "something".

Make the films shorter.

uralllame · Post by **uralllame** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:15 pm

xI_V3n93ance_Ix wrote:Ok, I found a nasty little bug and I want to know if it could gettin fixed by modding the film.

Its about big films in Halo 3.
It looks like if a film is longer than 30 minutes all the Armor data gets lost.
I have about 5 examples on my box and want to know if it could be fixed by changing "something".

Things get buggy with films with large file sizes. I don't thing there is a simple way to explain it... well, not from me at least.

Anyways, I have a question on my own? Is the position of the Aegis Fate stored in the sandtrap usermaps? Would I be able to create a mod where is has disappeared, in the same way one can remove shield doors?

xbox · Post by **xbox** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:03 pm

Both have been done before.

ImpactPro · Post by **ImpactPro** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:25 am

Quick question, are any of the files/patches in plaintext (Adding/Subtracting gametypes from matchmaking) but in a CON, or if I'm correct they are in the Live/Pirs file format.