What is Bungie Teasing Now?

xzodia · Post by **xzodia** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:36 pm

I doubt its more than a massive empty room with new forge items...

CompKronos · Post by **CompKronos** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:57 pm

as far as the ai is concerned, conveinetly enough the Bungie Publications have been exapanded to involve:

Halo AI Retrospective: 8 Years of Work on 30 Seconds of Fun
By: Damian Isla, AI Engineering Lead
Presented at: Develop ’08
Download here

Isla examines the iterative changes made in the Halo trilogy’s AI. From Halo: Combat Evolved’s Elites, to the ferocious Brutes of Halo 3’s and a look what must improve in our AI looking forward.

Decision Making and Knowledge Representation in Halo 3
By: Max Dyckhoff, AI Engineer
Presented at: MALAGA Workshop, NIPS ‘07
Download here

Dyckhoff exposes the major representations used in Halo 3’s AI systems, and the algorithms behind the complex decision making which drives the industry leading AI.

Evolving Halo’s Behavior Tree AI
By: Max Dyckhoff, AI Engineer
Presented at: GDC ‘07
Download here

An analysis of the improvements to the behavior tree AI system from Halo 2 to Halo 3. Presented as part of a three-part session at GDC ’07 in collaboration with developers on EA’s Spore.

The Technology of Halo 2
By: Chris Butcher, Engineering Lead
Presented at: Gametech 2004
Download here

At its heart, the Halo engine is a world simulation engine. Engineering Lead Chris Butcher describes the evolution of the “Halo” engine from its traceable origins in Pathways into Darkness and to its present state in Halo 2.

The Illusion of Intelligence: The Integration of AI and Level Design in Halo
By: Chris Butcher, Engineering Lead and Jaime Griesemer, Design Lead
Presented at: GDC ’02
Download here

link to bungie update

maybe this is actually an expansion to forge that could be, umm how should i put it, useful? mb

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:27 pm

zomgosh superintendent in that video too. liek zomggggggg.
I'm bored, and wish they'd make an announcement

blade22222222 · Post by **blade22222222** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:42 pm

AshesOfEmpires2 wrote: O as for them releasing another dvd for what ever this might be I highly doubt it since that would cost them more money then its worth and it could simply be done over XBL unless its like 4gb...

I think its very possible that they will release a disk for what ever this might be because a) They did for the first halo 2 map pack, and B) they could charge more and they would have more people to buy it from the non xbox live community.

Twinreaper · Post by **Twinreaper** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:17 pm

If memory serves correct. They will release the info about a podcast and video of whatever it is that they have cooking, once M$ deems it so. As for the forge speculation. I believe I read a while back that they had planned to make an outside themed sandbox, and give the ability to add scenery and new structure based obstacles, so that the player could in turn, truly create their own unique map. But since info is limited on this type of production, it is still anyone guess. I mean looking at it realistically, we have seen a much broader amount of new content in the little time H3 has been out compared to how much we were given for H2. And no it is not because they didn't have any new content. The truth is, most of the content that was created for H2 expansion, was carried over to H3. So it is not entirely out of the question to see in the very near future(probably before x-mas to drive sales) a release for a new forge variant.

AshesOfEmpires2 · Post by **AshesOfEmpires2** » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:09 pm

blade22222222 wrote:
AshesOfEmpires2 wrote: O as for them releasing another dvd for what ever this might be I highly doubt it since that would cost them more money then its worth and it could simply be done over XBL unless its like 4gb...
I think its very possible that they will release a disk for what ever this might be because a) They did for the first halo 2 map pack, and B) they could charge more and they would have more people to buy it from the non xbox live community.

Yeah you could say that, one could also say they would release it on dvd so that it would be separate from halo 3 and what not. However if they left it only for download they could make it so that only the people who want it would get it. Any way you look at it there are several reasons not to and to put it on dvd.

A few TsGh guys were in a party with a few bungie guys n they brought up the subject of this video and what is to come in the later months. All they had to say was it will bring even more interest to Halo 3 and that it was a plan long since in the working, that they had originally planned for it to be in H3 from the get go but due to time constraints they were unable to do so, but it worked out for the better.

xlRainlx · Post by **xlRainlx** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:34 am

Well whatever it is it looks interesting. I wonder when it's coming out.

xbox · Post by **xbox** » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:58 am

I think it will definitely be out by Christmas.
Maybe its the change they were talking about in their last update that was coming out in September.
Hopefully we'll here about in tomorrow's update.

INSANEdrive · Post by **INSANEdrive** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:49 pm

New Level.

M715ForLife · Post by **M715ForLife** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:31 pm

You read the update?

Nothing

Kirk · Post by **Kirk** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:26 pm

They aren't going to release something like that so soon. It'll probably be at least until the penny arcade expo before anything is announced/released, but I'd really, really doubt anything would be released then.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:43 pm

M715ForLife wrote:You read the update?

Nothing

This weeks update was garbage.

And also I doubt from the looks of it, its ready to even be "officially announced"

Themandyou · Post by **Themandyou** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:08 pm

From the update, it seems like AI.

But, then again, chances are 90% I'm wrong.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:20 pm

Themandyou wrote:From the update, it seems like AI.

But, then again, chances are 90% I'm wrong.

I got that feeling as well...maybe I'm reading too much into it, and maybe my technical terms aren't up to date, but it really felt like that.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:08 pm

I could tell in the update it hinted AIs, but it wasn't officially announced because by the looks from my vid its no where near being ready to announce. But yes it was pretty obviously hinted.

snakejknight · Post by **snakejknight** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:24 am

I very much doubt AI. I am thinking more along the lines of another foundry just A LOT more to it. I am praying for a pc map editor but even if that is the case i doubt it would be as great as we would want it to be. Are we ever satisfied anyway? Perhaps it's a custom SP forge? (probably not) the only reason i say that is because of the fact that there is ai and they reference Miranda and Johnson. MB a custom sp pc app? or both sp and mp? like cod4?

For the first time in a long time i am actually excited about whatever it is bungie is cooking up!

xbox · Post by **xbox** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:00 am

I think that it will be a super foundry and not AI. those things in the movie just looked like bipeds that were placed in an internal build of rats nest,

UR MAST3R · Post by **UR MAST3R** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:25 am

xbox wrote:I think that it will be a super foundry and not AI. those things in the movie just looked like bipeds that were placed in an internal build of rats nest,

If there is no AI was what the point of putting them in that video? Bungie could be teasing us with them but i doubt it.

antszy101 · Post by **antszy101** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:32 am

I would love a full out map editor. I really wonder if that's what they are working on because the last level in the video is not anything that I recognize. And it also looks like there is a default background on the floor of that last level as well (The blue tiling squares)

Yamagushi · Post by **Yamagushi** » Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:42 am

It seems as if the Map Editor rumor is plausible, unlikely but plausible.

As for everyone saying AI!! Your looking way to into it... It has AI standing around to make the video more interesting, It didn't show him fighting AI, it showed Lifeless AI standing around.. This is something I would completely expect in a bungie/halo video...