Stupid Snowbound...

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:40 pm

TheEazyB wrote:
Eaton wrote:
Frak wrote:Can the turrets just be moved underground? That would be nice just to have them gone but i know from halo 1 editing that things outside the BSP are usually deleted. But sense halo 3 allows a different type of geometry than halo 1 it could work.
You cannot modify them in any way. Unless you mod the map.
If you read my post, you would have realized that is incorrect. The usermap stores placement chunks for them, if you edit the co ords to a place far under the map or up high etc it will work. You cannot delete the placement chunk, because the .map scenario dictates there must be a certain number of turrets spawned and that they must have AI.

Short answer: Yes you can move them places far out of the map to make them useless, you just cant remove them from the map period.

Oh, sorry. Overlooked that.

bballaplaya4life · Post by **bballaplaya4life** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:01 pm

If they are moved somewhere in the map, will they still shoot at you? Or do they only shoot if the AI detects someone past the point where they normally shoot?

TheEazyB · Post by **TheEazyB** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:23 pm

bballaplaya4life wrote:If they are moved somewhere in the map, will they still shoot at you? Or do they only shoot if the AI detects someone past the point where they normally shoot?

Not sure. They most likely will shoot but only if your past the certain point.

Rogue_Modder · Post by **Rogue_Modder** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:34 pm

u can move the X,Y,Z cord of the turrets.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:59 pm

Oh my God. No way. Really? Are you 4srs?

bballaplaya4life · Post by **bballaplaya4life** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:28 pm

TheEazyB wrote:
bballaplaya4life wrote:If they are moved somewhere in the map, will they still shoot at you? Or do they only shoot if the AI detects someone past the point where they normally shoot?
Not sure. They most likely will shoot but only if your past the certain point.

I wonder if they made it so that if you're a certain distance behind the turret it will shoot at you...

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:37 pm

Pretty sure it's once you cross a barrier/enter a region too far outside of the map. I imagine that would be significantly easier. Each turret probably has a set region in which it will shoot someone. Something like this, with the overlapping regions where multiple turrets will shoot at you.

It could be done either way, but I'd imagine it would be more manageable like this.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:01 pm

Tural wrote:Pretty sure it's once you cross a barrier/enter a region too far outside of the map. I imagine that would be significantly easier. Each turret probably has a set region in which it will shoot someone. Something like this, with the overlapping regions where multiple turrets will shoot at you.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3268/56394022nl2.jpg

It could be done either way, but I'd imagine it would be more manageable like this.

Yea actually that's pretty much how it works, for me at least, but I don't think there's an overlapping region.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:03 pm

Two turrets can and will shoot at you at once, so there is an overlap.

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:13 pm

Tural wrote:Two turrets can and will shoot at you at once, so there is an overlap.

Haha, yeah they do. I just noticed that. I never really go out of bounds much .

miinaturvat · Post by **miinaturvat** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:25 pm

Frak wrote:Ok now that we've figured that out now can you tell me why my covie sniper tower keeps disappearing....
I set the tower to never re spawn so i don't know why it just goes POOF! and is never seen again about 30 seconds into the game.

I know why

If the top is forced to move when it spawns, it will disappear after 30 seconds.

If you play the map and go to theater, you will see that the top of your sniper turret is forced to move slightly when it spawns.

You need to position it perfectly so that it doesn't move when it starts; If you can do this, it won't ever disappear (unless you blow it up or shoot it too much

)

It's really difficult to position it perfectly, and I've only ever seen one map that the sniper tower top didn't disappear.

tehbigL · Post by **tehbigL** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:00 pm

miinaturvat wrote:
Frak wrote:Ok now that we've figured that out now can you tell me why my covie sniper tower keeps disappearing....
I set the tower to never re spawn so i don't know why it just goes POOF! and is never seen again about 30 seconds into the game.
I know why

If the top is forced to move when it spawns, it will disappear after 30 seconds.

If you play the map and go to theater, you will see that the top of your sniper turret is forced to move slightly when it spawns.

You need to position it perfectly so that it doesn't move when it starts; If you can do this, it won't ever disappear (unless you blow it up or shoot it too much )

It's really difficult to position it perfectly, and I've only ever seen one map that the sniper tower top didn't disappear.

Supposedly the technique used in this tutorial at ibotmodz works to make the top not disappear. http://www.ibotmodz.net/foru/?showtopic=4967
I haven't tried it myself yet.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:05 pm

You didn't need to bump this old thread.