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[Choking Victim]

We prefer originality and hard work over some 12 year olds wet dreams of turning halo ce into a crappy remake of halo 2 for the 900th time.

Then don't download it
Simple enough answer to your worries.

Or we can just not release extraction like we've been saying...

[Evilsnowflakes]

well as long as the tutorial that is released goes through the making of a simple animation then I'll be happy.

[L0d3x]

We prefer originality and hard work over some 12 year olds wet dreams of turning halo ce into a crappy remake of halo 2 for the 900th time.

Then don't download it
Simple enough answer to your worries.

Or we can just not release extraction like we've been saying...

Your team almost sounds surprised to be receiving reactions like this. What did you expect, that we'd all just kiss your buttox? Praise the almighty ones who will let us taste but a portion of greatness, knowing that so much more could be done?

Also, you say you don't want to see 100 crappy mods using the same animations etc, my question: why do you care about this? Everyone with a brain will know a crappy mod like that when they see it.

If I had a very tasty cookie right now, I'd share it with everyone but your team. And believe me, the hypothetical cookie I speak of, is DELICIOUS.

[Tural]

It strikes me as trying to have one's cake and eat it, a phrase I've never really understood. I think it's perfectly reasonable to want to eat a cake that you have; there's not much else you can do with a cake, except maybe hide in one if you're a stripper.

[JunkfoodMan]

It strikes me as trying to have one's cake and eat it, a phrase I've never really understood. I think it's perfectly reasonable to want to eat a cake that you have; there's not much else you can do with a cake, except maybe hide in one if you're a stripper.

ZP =D

Also, I think it was just a big mistake on Zteam's side, that being you should never really flash out something like this if the community isn't going to get it, and if you do flash it out you have nothing more to expect than complaints as to why you aren't releasing it =\

[Choking Victim]

We prefer originality and hard work over some 12 year olds wet dreams of turning halo ce into a crappy remake of halo 2 for the 900th time.

Then don't download it
Simple enough answer to your worries.

Or we can just not release extraction like we've been saying...

Your team almost sounds surprised to be receiving reactions like this. What did you expect, that we'd all just kiss your buttox? Praise the almighty ones who will let us taste but a portion of greatness, knowing that so much more could be done?

Also, you say you don't want to see 100 crappy mods using the same animations etc, my question: why do you care about this? Everyone with a brain will know a crappy mod like that when they see it.

If I had a very tasty cookie right now, I'd share it with everyone but your team. And believe me, the hypothetical cookie I speak of, is DELICIOUS.

We're surprised that people are behaving like we owe them something. We do this on our time as a hobby, not to please anyone. We knew that revealing an animation extractor alone would spark a conflict that continues because people like you think they need it. It's for this reason that we began working on an injector. Keep it up, no one really seems to be happy with what we've offered, so why should we even release the injector?

Keep your cookie little boy, judging by the maturity level of this community, by the time it gets to me it would be covered in the saliva and tears of 13 year olds.

good day.

[Tural]

We're surprised that people are behaving like we owe them something.

They aren't. They're just saying they want it, and because you showed it to them, it is just coming off as showboating.

We do this on our time as a hobby, not to please anyone.

And? If you can please people, why wouldn't you? Well, we could help people, but we won't, because we don't have to.

We knew that revealing an animation extractor alone would spark a conflict that continues because people like you think they need it.

God forbid people want to use a very useful tool.

Keep it up, no one really seems to be happy with what we've offered, so why should we even release the injector?

Apparently you shouldn't, because you just said you don't care about pleasing anyone, so why release anything? You can just continue showing it off and not release it, because that has gone so well so far.

Good day to you.

[Choking Victim]

Apparently people aren't familiar with us as a CE mapping team. The funny thing is, people ASKED for an update on what the team has been up to. We weren't showboating, we were updating. We showed whats been going on behind closed doors, and this is what we get. We posted the update to please people, this is what we got in return. I never stated I don't care about pleasing people, its just that its obviously not working.

[Tural]

And are the people who asked for an update the people complaining? Doesn't appear to be so from this thread.

[Choking Victim]

Yes, we were asked to update on another forum. The majority that asked for the update did not complain, but the minority complained. I don't see how this concerns you if you've previously stated you "don't give a shit about halo 2 modding". How will extraction be useful to you?

[Tural]

I specifically stated how; rendering.

[Choking Victim]

Damn, good reason. Better release...

[Tural]

Oh geez, sorry my use for something is so trivial. How could I ever dare use a tool for something that doesn't reach your standards of importance. Christ. Stop being so arrogant. I just said I would want to use the damn thing for rendering. What the fuck is the problem with me wanting to do that? All of us who would use them for rendering are clearly inferior to you and your friends. Please forgive us for being such babbling fucking idiots. I'm not even arguing for a fucking release, I'm arguing with your broken logic. I couldn't care less if you release it. Would I like it? Yes. Do I need it? No. Do whatever the fuck you want, but stop coming here acting all high and mighty about shit you have, talking down to me because I have a different use than other people.

[neodos]

Keep it up, no one really seems to be happy with what we've offered....

What did you offered?
Pictures of what you can do?

Sorry but that's not offering, don't complain about people complaining about that you announce something and that later you are not releasing.

This has happenned soooo many times in h2 modding scene, big mistake, and you don't seem to be aware of this..
Just like we are not aware of what's going on on others forums where other people asked for an update and didn't complain because they asked for an update, but here you posted that as something that your team was going to offer to the community and not something that you show for the "eh look what we can do we're da best!"

Just what are you waiting to release the injector?
That people complain more and more so you got a reason to not release it?

As i said a mistake repeated many times on h2 modding scene.

I'd be glad to get an injector, i was confused about if it was going to be released or not because the rest of the announcements are posted on another forum which i wasn't aware of.

[Choking Victim]

I don't mind that you render, it's just the fact that you argue about it as if rendering is a necessity that keeps the world going round. I can see why someone in your position would be upset, since what we have to offer has no use to you.

Neodos: We've offered the injector. Remember, we're releasing it. It's still in the process of being created.

[Tural]

I actually agree with neodos for once. We didn't ask you for anything. You showed up, showed us something, then said we can't have it because our use isn't good enough for you, and you think people would use it for stupid mods, which people would immediately know are stupid and generic, therefore invalidating that point.

I'm on the verge of locking this topic because of how out-of-hand it's gotten. The discussion about the intended purpose has ended. If you plan to rectify the thread, you should do it now.

it's just the fact that you argue about it as if rendering is a necessity

I never, ever said that. In fact, I just got done saying the exact opposite. Nice try though.

I'm not even arguing for a *** release, I'm arguing with your broken logic. I couldn't care less if you release it. Would I like it? Yes. Do I need it? No. Do whatever the *** you want.

The only reason I even continued discussing it was because you prompted me specifically to do so.

[Choking Victim]

Nice edit before I posted.

We never showed up and showed you anything you can't have. Read the thread description this thread is about animation injection you assumed that we would release extraction. Don't blame me for your disappointing assumption.

Lock it. The arguments been resurrected many times, don't be surprised if it'll happen again here, especially if a staff member is the one who did it last.

[Tural]

Nice edit before I posted.

It took you more than three minutes to type two sentences?

We never showed up and showed you anything you can't have. Read the thread description this thread is about animation injection you assumed that we would release extraction. Don't blame me for your disappointing assumption.

More information regarding the tools.
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10458

Okay, so you didn't post it, apologies. However, it was not an assumption, by any means, at all, in any way. That wouldn't even make sense.

Lock it. The arguments been resurrected many times, don't be surprised if it'll happen again here, especially if a staff member is the one who did it last.

My title has nothing to do with my comments. Being a staff member is wholly independent of my posting, so don't drag it in as if it has any relevance. My title apparently makes people post things and changes their opinions to match mine? That's one hell of a five-letter word.