Ghosts, Alien life, Bigfoot type 'mythic' creatures.

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:58 am

Danke wrote:I find it strange that the people who regularly bash religion here have no problem believing in aliens without any proof.

Natural laws imply that there must be a certain quantity of both genders in the population of a specie inorder for that specie to live on, that being said if there was such a god how would he have been created himself or how did he get here in the first place and if he did exist how can he still exist to this day as his cellular and atomic structure would be extremely aged by now and would more than likely be very frail.
Aliens how ever, there is undeniable proof that life can live in some of the most extreme environments such as the crust's of active volcanoes and at the bottom of the oceans by the ring of fire there are underwater plooms of super heated water where life flurishes.

INSANEdrive · Post by **INSANEdrive** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:26 am

Without bothering to read all the posts

Ghosts and the like, Yes... Experience makes a Believer out of anyone. If only there were words in this archaic language to explain. I wonder why the field Demonology exists? Oh what a Joy Reality is.

Aliens. Universe too big not to. Yes.

Mythic Creatures.

Angels. Yes. Best roses ever.

Dragon. Perhaps

Bigfoot and the like. Perhaps.

Everything else at this current time. No.

Ombre · Post by **Ombre** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:56 am

Dalek wrote:
Danke wrote:I find it strange that the people who regularly bash religion here have no problem believing in aliens without any proof.
Natural laws imply that there must be a certain quantity of both genders in the population of a specie inorder for that specie to live on, that being said if there was such a god how would he have been created himself or how did he get here in the first place and if he did exist how can he still exist to this day as his cellular and atomic structure would be extremely aged by now and would more than likely be very frail.
Aliens how ever, there is undeniable proof that life can live in some of the most extreme environments such as the crust's of active volcanoes and at the bottom of the oceans by the ring of fire there are underwater plooms of super heated water where life flurishes.

I find it funny though how you guys act like people of science, then just say "hay the universe is really big so it must be true!". That is just as much of a faith as anything else.

This topic is going to end up getting locked soon, but I needed to say something.

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:46 pm

Dalek wrote:Natural laws imply that there must be a certain quantity of both genders in the population of a specie inorder for that specie to live on, that being said if there was such a god how would he have been created himself or how did he get here in the first place and if he did exist how can he still exist to this day as his cellular and atomic structure would be extremely aged by now and would more than likely be very frail.

I'm no theologian, but I was under the impression that the very large majority of gods of the very large majority of religions are supposed to be outside the realm of "natural laws."

Aliens how ever, there is undeniable proof that life can live in some of the most extreme environments such as the crust's of active volcanoes and at the bottom of the oceans by the ring of fire there are underwater plooms of super heated water where life flurishes.

Just because something can exist, doesn't mean that it does exist.

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:17 pm

Danke wrote:
Aliens how ever, there is undeniable proof that life can live in some of the most extreme environments such as the crust's of active volcanoes and at the bottom of the oceans by the ring of fire there are underwater plooms of super heated water where life flurishes.
Just because something can exist, doesn't mean that it does exist.

Sod's law.
Anything that can happen will.

Aumaan Anubis · Post by **Aumaan Anubis** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:19 pm

Worst... Reasoning... Ever.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:17 pm

Dalek wrote:Sod's law.
Anything that can happen will.

So because its possible for 20 men to rape you, in the dead of night, with no lube, and on some remote island off the cost of no-where, it's going to happen?

Damn, do I feel sorry for you.

Think before you act, or speak, whatever.

Ragdoll · Post by **Ragdoll** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:22 pm

Sweet Jesus, that would be one hell of a saturday night.

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:53 pm

Senor_Grunt wrote:
Dalek wrote:Sod's law.
Anything that can happen will.
So because its possible for 20 men to rape you, in the dead of night, with no lube, and on some remote island off the cost of no-where, it's going to happen?

Damn, do I feel sorry for you.

Think before you act, or speak, whatever.

It's not possible due to the fact.
A: i would never let that happen [not exactly a small guy]
B: i live in the middle of no where theres not even 20 people where i live let alone 20 men.
And my point was saying anything that can happen will happen somewhere.
Think twice before you assume my intentions what meaning.

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:01 pm

Sod's law.
Anything that can happen will.

I think you mean "If anything can go wrong, it will."

It's a joke, not a scientific law.

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:08 pm

Danke wrote:
Sod's law.
Anything that can happen will.
I think you mean "If anything can go wrong, it will."

It's a joke, not a scientific law.

I know full well it is a joke not a scientific law.
But it can be applied to so many situations these day's it may as well be a law.

Aumaan Anubis · Post by **Aumaan Anubis** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:11 pm

I'm afraid that you don't have the authority to determine that.

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:17 pm

Aumaan Anubis wrote:I'm afraid that you don't have the authority to determine that.

None of us do, thanks for pointing out the obivous.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:19 pm

At least his obvious comment is realistic.

Dalek · Post by **Dalek** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:23 pm

Tural wrote:At least his obvious comment is realistic.

So such a large expanse of space out there which i doubt anyone will compregend for some time and we are solely the ONLY planet that supports life?
Roll on Tural Roll on...

Aumaan Anubis · Post by **Aumaan Anubis** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:26 pm

Dalek, you're missing the point, yet again.

The point isn't to argue with you on whether life exists in the other regions of space, it's to inform you that your statement, which isn't proved true, cannot be used as evidence.

"Sod's law.
Anything that can happen will."

You're basing your argument on a joke.

sangheili · Post by **sangheili** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:36 pm

Danke wrote:Just because something can exist, doesn't mean that it does exist.

But in this case (involving scale of the universe), it most likely does, and not just the stereotypical green men, but microbial life.

Let's bring it down to size:

Here is an isolated colony of bacteria in your room ()^&#)&%
What are the odds of that colony being the only one in that room?

They are most likely dispersed everywhere, in different sizes and kinds (assuming your room isn't freakishly clean). This can be applied to life too. The room is huge compared to the bacteria. The universe is huge compared to homosapien.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:49 pm

I remember my first paranormal experience. I was 13, and I was at my grandma's house in LA. I was there alone, on the computer, and I heard a voice scream out, 'FIRE!'. So I ran outside, thinking it was someone on the street's. No one. I went back inside and remembered that my grandma had turned on a candle in her room. So I went to go look, and a picture of my uncle, who died in a fire in the house, was on the floor in the middle of the room, upside down, and the curtains were on fire from the candle being so close. I was scared, but I called 911 and everything and her house was saved. It really scared me though. Even though it may have been my uncle's voice.

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:01 pm

So such a large expanse of space out there which i doubt anyone will compregend for some time and we are solely the ONLY planet that supports life?

Again, the problem isn't with supporting life. Just because someone makes enough money to support a child, doesn't they have one.

This can be applied to life too.

What makes you say that?

The room is huge compared to the bacteria. The universe is huge compared to homosapien.

Who's to say that the earth is simply perfect for life? That if it were a millimeter closer to the sun, life wouldn't be formed?

I have no reason to believe in any sort of alien life, if my only reasons are:
(1) There are other planets that can support life
and
(2) The universe is hueg!

It's not like I find it hard to believe that there could be life outside earth, but that doesn't mean that I do believe that it exists.

Prepare for a horrible Danalogy!
Through some weird freak of nature, there could be a bird with snake fangs (awesome, right?). And there could be plenty of places on earth where they would survive. HOWEVER, just because there are places for them to live, and the idea isn't too implausible (mbmb), doesn't mean they exist, and I have no reason to believe they do.

sangheili · Post by **sangheili** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:59 am

Danke wrote:
This can be applied to life too.
What makes you say that?

I say this because I am just saying that this comparison of the room and bacteria is probably happening on a larger scale. Sorry for my bad wording, as what I said sounds more like "how can you use it in your daily life".

My bad.

No, I do not say earth is perfect for life. Of course if it were a millimeter closer to the sun it wouldn't make a difference.
And about your bird with snake fangs, what you are talking about is a mutation which has occured within a living organism within earth's habitats. This defect could cause it to die out (cannot eat its food properly, mating, etc.) We are dealing with whole new seperate entities.

Tbh we are wasting our time, as there is no sure fire way to disprove or prove extraterrestrial life.