Professional Gamers

CDK908 · Post by **CDK908** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:45 pm

athletes actually have to do something other than sit on a couch all day pressing buttons.and also an 11 year old can't become an athlete.

Aumaan Anubis · Post by **Aumaan Anubis** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:49 pm

CDK908 wrote: 11 year old can't become an athlete.

This has been repeated, and I'd like to know...

What is it suppose to prove?

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:50 pm

I am also against gamers going "pro".
Yes they are good at the game but there's something about it that just isn't comparable to like ANY other professional sport...Yes even lawn bowls. My mind tells me its a no no. The premise behind gaming (which is a means of fun entertainment) is lost when its pro I believe. It becomes overly serious and eats away time. My friends once used to do some level of "pro" counterstrike gaming....Whilst they were good, there was just a whole lot of excuses and anger and serious attitude that I just find pointless.

I've played faisal though...He's pro and comes with a kool accent

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:50 pm

It's very difficult to take an 11 year old seriously, especially one who claims to be a professional video game player. It's just such a clich

stickman910 · Post by **stickman910** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:10 pm

On tv here in Canada on the sports channel they actually have MLG shows on halo 2 tournaments. Now some people i see there do some stuff that is amazing but not the type of skill to be paid for. I seriously believe that anyone can be a pro gamer it just involves no life and a willingness for carpel tunnel syndrome.

P.s i have played no bungie nor pro gamers

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:17 pm

Hearing professional video game player makes me laugh too much. It makes me think of kids saying "I got a job, i play video games" to an adult, What do you think is the adults outlook on that?

Its silly, its a game, you can click buttons, big whoop, you must be SOOO good.

Its hard for me to take that serious. You can call playing video games a profession.

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:33 pm

-DeToX- wrote:Hearing professional video game player makes me laugh too much. It makes me think of kids saying "I got a job, i play video games" to an adult, What do you think is the adults outlook on that?

Its silly, its a game, you can click buttons, big whoop, you must be SOOO good.

Its hard for me to take that serious. You can call playing video games a profession.

You can catch a ball, so what?
None of it applies in the real world.
Why should this be treated differently?
You can take a left and drive in a circle, so what?

DrXThirst · Post by **DrXThirst** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:15 pm

Tural wrote:Because that's not the way our culture is. We see video games as just video games. They aren't a sport, and they won't be taken seriously as a profession. In a perfect world, yes, we'd see their dedication. However, this isn't a perfect world, and everything isn't objective. That's just the way it is.

So you always make comments about not being able to give your opinion, yet instead of going with what you think, you go with what your culture thinks?
Now, you may be thinking, "What if I just think the same thing my culture thinks? What if that IS my opinion?"
Then my opinion is you need you need too look at something as how hard earned it is, how much dedication is put into it and what it took to achieve that goal instead of what that goal is.

Veegie wrote:You can catch a ball, so what?
None of it applies in the real world.
Why should this be treated differently?
You can take a left and drive in a circle, so what?

So, what applies in the real world then Veegie?

OwnZ joO · Post by **OwnZ joO** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:56 pm

What are you people saying with just pressing buttons. Professional gaming is a lot more complicated than that, they make strategical decisions very quickly, and have really fast reactions, I bet better than many professional athletes. I don't see the problem with professional gaming that Scotty is describing, some people have fun when they put a lot of time and dedication into something, and then compete at a high level and win. Well I guess not so much fun, but enjoyment, same with any sport at a professional level, can't it be argued that professional sports take too much time, and sports are supposed to be played just for fun?

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:10 pm

Veegie wrote:You can catch a ball, so what?
None of it applies in the real world.
Why should this be treated differently?
You can take a left and drive in a circle, so what?

So maybe you need to actually work to catch the ball? I see sports getting people far in life, but I don't see a kid playing a video game constantly to get better healthy, good for their social life, or future...

Ragdoll · Post by **Ragdoll** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:14 pm

Veegie wrote:You can catch a ball, so what?
None of it applies in the real world.
Why should this be treated differently?
You can take a left and drive in a circle, so what?

Because those things take a little something called skill.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:18 pm

tomg44 wrote:Because those things take a little something called skill.

You could argue that games do too, but most of them seem to be more of an...acquired thing. Like some of my friends are just bad at video games. No matter how often they play them, they just suck. I hardly ever play FPSes and manage to do pretty decent in competitions and online.

Hell, my friend who didn't even have a gaming console 'til about a year ago is just as good as I am at these sorts of things. In my opinion, it's just something you're good at or not...you can't really practice to get better at it, i.e. sports.

Ragdoll · Post by **Ragdoll** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:24 pm

GametagAeonFlux wrote:You could argue that games do too, but most of them seem to be more of an...acquired thing. Like some of my friends are just bad at video games. No matter how often they play them, they just suck. I hardly ever play FPSes and manage to do pretty decent in competitions and online.

Hell, my friend who didn't even have a gaming console 'til about a year ago is just as good as I am at these sorts of things. In my opinion, it's just something you're good at or not...you can't really practice to get better at it, i.e. sports.

I totally see where you are coming from, in fact I see it the same way. You just misunderstood, I was strictly replying to Veegie's post which was talking about sports and driving.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:27 pm

tomg44 wrote:I totally see where you are coming from, in fact I see it the same way. You just misunderstood, I was strictly replying to Veegie's post which was talking about sports and driving.

I know you were talking about sports and driving requiring skill. I didn't misunderstand.

I was stating the other side of the argument, since that's how these sorts of things work. Doesn't matter who's right, just as long as someone else is wrong.

latinomodder · Post by **latinomodder** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:29 pm

tomg44 wrote:
GametagAeonFlux wrote:You could argue that games do too, but most of them seem to be more of an...acquired thing. Like some of my friends are just bad at video games. No matter how often they play them, they just suck. I hardly ever play FPSes and manage to do pretty decent in competitions and online.

Hell, my friend who didn't even have a gaming console 'til about a year ago is just as good as I am at these sorts of things. In my opinion, it's just something you're good at or not...you can't really practice to get better at it, i.e. sports.
I totally see where you are coming from, in fact I see it the same way. You just misunderstood, I was strictly replying to Veegie's post which was talking about sports and driving.

I stand here to think gaming actually helped me drive.... Playing FPS gives such good reflexes, and I'm into karting (the racing go karts).

Also a sport involves discipline training regularly I see no way you can have discipline playing video games besides playing adictevly

OwnZ joO · Post by **OwnZ joO** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:31 pm

GametagAeonFlux wrote:
tomg44 wrote:Because those things take a little something called skill.
You could argue that games do too, but most of them seem to be more of an...acquired thing. Like some of my friends are just bad at video games. No matter how often they play them, they just suck. I hardly ever play FPSes and manage to do pretty decent in competitions and online.

Hell, my friend who didn't even have a gaming console 'til about a year ago is just as good as I am at these sorts of things. In my opinion, it's just something you're good at or not...you can't really practice to get better at it, i.e. sports.

That's very untrue, there are plenty of people who suck at sports no matter how much they practice, you're just choosing to overlook it. In sports and video games there are people more talented than others, and then some people put in more time and practice to become as good as those that started off better than them off of pure talent. Don't tell me that there's no room to improve, look at a montage of a pro from when halo 2 came out, and then a montage of a pro a year or two after, you'd be like wow, I could have beat him in his first montage, but man he's just sick now...

JDMFSeanP · Post by **JDMFSeanP** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:32 pm

Gaming may be unhealthy and lead to unhealthy habits, but honestly being a professional runner is a LOT more unhealthy for your body.

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:35 pm

JDMFSeanP wrote:but honestly being a professional runner is a LOT more unhealthy for your body.

no...

JDMFSeanP · Post by **JDMFSeanP** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:37 pm

I am a runner, and do you have any clue what it does to your body? All that pounding on your knees especially isn't just absorbed.

Your pushing your body to places it isn't meant to be pushed, and the reprocushions are bad.

I don't know a single high up runner that hasen't suffered some major injuries somewhere along the line.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:39 pm

DrXThirst wrote:Instead of going with what you think, you go with what your culture thinks?

But... that is what I think... What are you rambling about?..