Oink servers raided, admin arrested

ProphetOfDeath · Post by **ProphetOfDeath** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:25 am

Taken from MTV.com

A special message greeted some of the estimated 180,000 paid members of music file-sharing Web site OiNK.cd when they tried to access it on Tuesday: "This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI [International Federation of the Phonographic Industry], BPI [British Phonographic Industry], Cleveland [U.K.] police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch police, into suspected illegal music distribution. A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's users."

The site

Philly · Post by **Philly** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:33 am

Wow. Just wow.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:44 am

That sucks.

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:24 am

Firstly, it wasn't a paid service. It was invitation only, there were no fee's.

And I was just getting my ratio up aswell, FFS.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:25 am

iGeo wrote:Firstly, it wasn't a paid service. It was invitation only, there were no fee's.

I think they meant to say that users were encouraged to donate.

SHOUTrvb · Post by **SHOUTrvb** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:04 pm

There goes the Man trying to keep us down again.

HPDarkness · Post by **HPDarkness** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:28 pm

I don't think music sharing should be illegal. I think sharing music, promotes bands more than radio/tv. I myself download albums. If I like it, I go buy it to support the artist. If I don't, I obviously delete it. There's no point in keeping music you don't like.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:34 pm

HPDarkness1 wrote:I don't think music sharing should be illegal. I think sharing music, promotes bands more than radio/tv.

Not to mention that most bands put the entire album up on Myspace or something at a lower bitrate, or the tons of YouTube videos featuring full songs.

Also, no one even buys CDs anymore, everyone I know just uses iTunes...I highly doubt that music sharing has caused that large of an impact.

HPDarkness · Post by **HPDarkness** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:45 pm

I still buy CDs >_>. I doubt bands really give a shit if their music is shared. No matter what, people will still buy music. I always see music stores full of people.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:59 pm

HPDarkness1 wrote:I still buy CDs >_>. I doubt bands really give a **** if their music is shared. No matter what, people will still buy music. I always see music stores full of people.

Well, I meant a vast majority, but regardless...

Also, bands (or their record company, whatever) make plenty of money touring too...concerts are always so packed...they're still making a huge profit.

CabooseJr · Post by **CabooseJr** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:18 pm

This is why I use Napster.

Senor_Grunt · Post by **Senor_Grunt** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 2:37 pm

CabooseJr wrote:This is why I use Napster.

Which napster, the old or new?

Kirk · Post by **Kirk** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:20 pm

Use iTunes

Mainly saying that is because they're putting out a lot of DRM-free music now.
DRM-Free music is what I see as the "great compromise". It's sort of the happy medium between downloading music and buying music... There will always be people downloading music illegally, but if there is DRM-Free music around, I'd be more than twice as likely to buy that than if it was DRM-Protected... And it doesn't have to be iTunes, I was just using that as an example.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 5:17 pm

GametagAeonFlux wrote:Also, bands (or their record company, whatever) make plenty of money touring too...concerts are always so packed...they're still making a huge profit.

The bands themselves generally make a killing off of the concerts, which is why I try to go to bands I like whenever possible. Sure, some portion will go to the promotional group and paying for the venue, but it's a better return than albums.

noscottno · Post by **noscottno** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:25 pm

lol, illegal downloadz.

FUCK TVLINKS IS GONE TOO.

I HATE LIFE

Kirk · Post by **Kirk** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:14 pm

Yeah,

SHOUTrvb · Post by **SHOUTrvb** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:31 pm

TV-Links was so great. I'm very pissed now.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:31 pm

noscottno wrote:lol, illegal downloadz.

*** TVLINKS IS GONE TOO.

I HATE LIFE

NO!

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:37 am

OiNK admin is already back at home. Site should be back up soon, with any luck.

And GTAF, you can't charge someone for encouraging people to donate. I think they made a mistake, because it's invite-only, rogue users were selling invites on other sites.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:31 am

iGeo wrote:OiNK admin is already back at home. Site should be back up soon, with any luck.

And GTAF, you can't charge someone for encouraging people to donate. I think they made a mistake, because it's invite-only, rogue users were selling invites on other sites.

...what? So they made this whole grand deal about it, and after a day everything's back to normal? There's no way the site is going to remain the same (i.e. free music torrents).

I know they can't, just stating that media tends to blow things out of proportion and report fallacies.

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