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CDK908 wrote:first off the ark is not in our galaxy that's im sure off.
I think Chief said it was at the edge of the galaxy, and 343 said it was like...2^18 light years away from any life or something. I don't know the exact number/quote.
meh my sister was prob. yelling when it said that...but for some odd reason i can see the entire milky way galaxy when im on the ark. by the way i was just wondering. did the ark travel to the first halo or did the ark teleported the first halo to it?
Installation 04(Halo 1 Ring) was destroyed. It was not transported nor was the ark. The ark was rebuilding it.

yes but how did it get there in the first place?
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hmm maybe the Ark has AI that guides it maybe like 343 Guilty spark it was made to remotely activate all halo's but is also a giant station the rebuilds halo's if there destroyed, and i bet that it has a slipspace drive thats why it just appeared there. but yea the ark is building a new installation 04 aka alpha halo
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when you play the level, The Ark, look up into the sky. You can see our own galaxy.
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we know it says the ark is located on the edge of our galaxy and the portal was on earth so we can get to it no matter where it is, but i do believe that the ark moves through space, if it was indeed there the whole time we would have seen it in halo since its at the site of the old instillation 04 so that means that alpha halo is just outside our galaxy also, but we still don't know the coordinates of delta halo, or the other 5 installations, but idk in the halo 2 and halo there was a map showing all installations but i don't think it had earth pin pointed on that map lol.
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I dont think the ark was at the location that installation 04 was destroyed, It was just rebuilding it where it already was. And if the ark/new installation 04 was at the edge of our galaxy wouldn't setting it off had killed everyone in our galaxy....?
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Yamagushi wrote:And if the ark/new installation 04 was at the edge of our galaxy wouldn't setting it off had killed everyone in our galaxy....?
No. For that to happen, all the Halos would have to be activated at the same time.
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Yamagushi wrote:And if the ark/new installation 04 was at the edge of our galaxy wouldn't setting it off had killed everyone in our galaxy....?
No. For that to happen, all the Halos would have to be activated at the same time.
umm why is that? it destroyed the flood but somehow didnt reach us? Didnt they say it kills off everything within a 20 light year radius or some shit and also sets off the other rings in range and makes a chain reaction that sets em all off?
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Yamagushi wrote:umm why is that? it destroyed the flood but somehow didnt reach us? Didnt they say it kills off everything within a 20 light year radius or some **** and also sets off the other rings in range and makes a chain reaction that sets em all off?
All of the Flood that were not contained on other Halos were on the Ark, which the 04 replacement killed. The Ark is out of range of the other Halos (it was built as a shelter, to activate the other Halos without being killed from what I recall)...so the chain reaction did not occur.

As for how 04's activation didn't kill Chief...it's kind of a plot hole, but I guess you can say that since it was incomplete, the range was severely reduced.
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GametagAeonFlux wrote:
Yamagushi wrote:umm why is that? it destroyed the flood but somehow didnt reach us? Didnt they say it kills off everything within a 20 light year radius or some **** and also sets off the other rings in range and makes a chain reaction that sets em all off?
All of the Flood that were not contained on other Halos were on the Ark, which the 04 replacement killed. The Ark is out of range of the other Halos (it was built as a shelter, to activate the other Halos without being killed from what I recall)...so the chain reaction did not occur.

As for how 04's activation didn't kill Chief...it's kind of a plot hole, but I guess you can say that since it was incomplete, the range was severely reduced.
Mk that makes sense but what about the ark/installation only being on the edge of our galaxy, id assume we are within range of the blast?
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Yamagushi wrote:but what about the ark/installation only being on the edge of our galaxy, id assume we are within range of the blast?
Not even close.
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Yamagushi wrote:but what about the ark/installation only being on the edge of our galaxy, id assume we are within range of the blast?
Not even close.
mk so the only way it could make sense that the rings when set off would destroy all life in the universe, but this ring couldnt reach the length of one single galaxy is that alone the rings are quite weak but set all off at once they make some kind of super weapon capable of much further ranges, is this correct?
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Yamagushi wrote:mk so the only way it could make sense that the rings when set off would destroy all life in the universe, but this ring couldnt reach the length of one single galaxy is that alone the rings are quite weak but set all off at once they make some kind of super weapon capable of much further ranges, is this correct?
That's why there are 7 of them.
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GametagAeonFlux wrote:
Yamagushi wrote:mk so the only way it could make sense that the rings when set off would destroy all life in the universe, but this ring couldnt reach the length of one single galaxy is that alone the rings are quite weak but set all off at once they make some kind of super weapon capable of much further ranges, is this correct?
That's why there are 7 of them.
To make a super weapon of sorts? Or to reach the farther range? The way i see it if there all only as strong as this one, then setting them all off wouldnt affect our galaxy as wed still be out of range, or even if there all right around our galaxy and thus could reach it i still see the problem of how they would destroy the rest of the universe with such a limited range, that is unless of course the "super weapon deal" is correct and when combined have a much larger range than if u set off each one separately one at a time.

I know ive been asking a lot of questions but thanks for the answers its clearing the story up for me quite a bit. Im actually getting interested in reading the books lol i have the first one(i think its the first - The Flood?)
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If I wasn't such a hobo I would buy all the books and then never read them o.0 Okay I would read them but it would be a while cause I would be busy with school-work and halo 3. Someone wanna compile a list of all the books and PM it to me?

Also I reaaally want to play halo 3...bad... sigh... I can buy it tomorrow but I have to work on Friday, then again on Sunday, and I have a tonne of homework :'[
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To make a super weapon of sorts? Or to reach the farther range? The way i see it if there all only as strong as this one, then setting them all off wouldnt affect our galaxy as wed still be out of range, or even if there all right around our galaxy and thus could reach it i still see the problem of how they would destroy the rest of the universe with such a limited range, that is unless of course the "super weapon deal" is correct and when combined have a much larger range than if u set off each one separately one at a time.
Installation 04 was not complete therefore it's detonation didn't affect it's optimul radius. If all the rings wre actuvated at once, the whole galaxy would be wiped clean. I believe that if one ring goes off and the blast reaches another, that ring goes off untill all of them are activated. Correct me if Im wrong.
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Yamagushi wrote:The way i see it if there all only as strong as this one, then setting them all off wouldnt affect our galaxy as wed still be out of range, or even if there all right around our galaxy and thus could reach it i still see the problem of how they would destroy the rest of the universe with such a limited range, that is unless of course the "super weapon deal" is correct and when combined have a much larger range than if u set off each one separately one at a time.

I know ive been asking a lot of questions but thanks for the answers its clearing the story up for me quite a bit. Im actually getting interested in reading the books lol i have the first one(i think its the first - The Flood?)
No. Every Halo has the same range, no matter whether they are activated independently, or as an array from the Ark. They WOULD affect our galaxy; they are only IN our galaxy. They were never designed for the "rest of the universe," I don't know where you got that from.
Also, I believe that if you activate a Halo by itself, it'll only affect it's radius, and not set off any others...that ruins the point of having the Ark as a control center. The Ark is supposed to be the only place to fire every one of them, preventing a galactic extermination if one is fired by accident.

Also, The Flood is the second book, it deals with the events of Halo primarily, with a little bit of things occuring out of the game.
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shadowkhas wrote:No. Every Halo has the same range, no matter whether they are activated independently, or as an array from the Ark. They WOULD affect our galaxy; they are only IN our galaxy. They were never designed for the "rest of the universe," I don't know where you got that from.
Also, I believe that if you activate a Halo by itself, it'll only affect it's radius, and not set off any others...that ruins the point of having the Ark as a control center. The Ark is supposed to be the only place to fire every one of them, preventing a galactic extermination if one is fired by accident.
1) I believe the game says if one goes off it creates a chain reaction that sets off the others.

2) So if it was indeed close enough to destroy our galaxy, why didnt it?
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Yamagushi wrote: 2) So if it was indeed close enough to destroy our galaxy, why didnt it?
You misunderstood my point. The Halos in their ORIGINAL POSITIONS could take out life on our galaxy. The Ark is out of range of the Halos, so presumably, any Halo, even fully built and with full range, wouldn't affect our galaxy. The Ark is even 2^18 light years away from our Galaxy, and the effective range of a Halo is 25,000 light years.

Also, yeah, disregard my comment about individual Halos not starting a chain reaction. I looked into it and they do, apparently. I must've just misunderstood some dialog.
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shadowkhas wrote:Also, yeah, disregard my comment about individual Halos not starting a chain reaction. I looked into it and they do, apparently. I must've just misunderstood some dialog.
Indeed. When installation 05 almost fired, they mentioned it set all of the other rings to standby status, which would fit in with one ring affecting all of them.
Yamagushi wrote:2) So if it was indeed close enough to destroy our galaxy, why didnt it?
This is a majorly flawed argument. Why are you bringing it up constantly? The ring was not ready to be fired. When they fired it, it blew itself up. It was so unstable that it destroyed itself, and considering that, I find it unimaginably unlikely that it fired correctly, at full potential. Logic would dictate that it had a very small range.
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^ what tural said. I swear do people just ignore the important part of posts...
Installation 04 was not complete therefore it's detonation didn't affect it's optimul radius.
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