The ending?! WARNING SPOILERS

[GametagAeonFlux]

wasnt forge the name of the marathons map editor? hint mb mb?

There are plenty of references to marathon in halo 3. It doesn't mean the games main character are one in the same in any way.

In 2002, Alex Seropian said something like "I don't know if we ever say so, but they're the same character, it's so obvious."

EDIT: http://halo.bungie.org/pressscans/displ ... n.Spring02

From one of shadowkhas' posts earlier in this thread, second image.

[halo0001]

wasnt forge the name of the marathons map editor? hint mb mb?

There are plenty of references to marathon in halo 3. It doesn't mean the games main character are one in the same in any way.

So, your saying they just threw it into halo 3, and had a cliff hanger ending where it ties into so nicely with marathon, is just a coincidence?

[galvination]

Explain to me why the AI on the ship in marathon are 3 different AI's none of which are named cortana and it takes place on a ship called the UESC marathon. It's not a UNSC frigate. Clearly two different games, with halo being influenced by marathon. I doubt the games tie into each other through one main character. Despite the many similarities.

[GametagAeonFlux]

Explain to me why the AI on the ship in marathon are 3 different AI's none of which are named cortana and it takes place on a ship called the UESC marathon. It's not a UNSC frigate. Clearly two different games, with halo being influenced by marathon. I doubt the games tie into each other through one main character. Despite the many similarities.

Halo fits in to Marathons timeline if I remember correctly. The game's introduction doesn't quite look like the end of Halo 3...but if they did/do exist in the same universe, then by the time Marathon started, Cortana would be "dead."

[galvination]

So suddenly leela, and the two lesser AI are somehow on a UNSC ship. Also someone should see how long a person can stay in cryo/stasis etc. because marathon is 200 years after the end of halo 3.

[Aumaan Anubis]

unfortunately, this would end any argument that they're in different universes.

http://halo.bungie.org/pressscans/displ ... n.Spring02

2nd image.

[GametagAeonFlux]

So suddenly leela, and the two lesser AI are somehow on a UNSC ship. Also someone should see how long a person can stay in cryo/stasis etc. because marathon is 200 years after the end of halo 3.

*shrug*

I'm just trying to piece together something plausible, considering Seropian pretty much said that Halo is a prequel to Marathon...I'm beginning to think that quote was out of line, and isn't exactly true...but he's the boss man.

Aumaan, I (and earlier, shadowkhas) already posted that link. Please read the thread before you post.

[shadowkhas]

So suddenly leela, and the two lesser AI are somehow on a UNSC ship. Also someone should see how long a person can stay in cryo/stasis etc. because marathon is 200 years after the end of halo 3.

Marathon is 200 years after H3, as you said. Couldn't the UNSC become the UESC in that time?

[galvination]

Marathon is 200 years after H3, as you said. Couldn't the UNSC become the UESC in that time?

In order for the ship to be changed wouldn't he have had to be picked up? If so why would he be all alone like the main character in marathon is.

[Aumaan Anubis]

Aumaan, I (and earlier, shadowkhas) already posted that link. Please read the thread before you post.

I know, but it seemed like he didn't read it because I, at least, didn't see him respond to it. I was just trying to reinforce the point that would end whatever the problem was.

[newbymodder]

dude halo was influenced from marathon but is the prequel to the marathon game, its not stated that the main character from marathon is the MC nor will it ever be until a game is made. but it is after halo they are in the exact same time line its even stated in the wiki of both games. The USEC could be a result of the old alliances of Earth reforming due to the fact that the war with the Covenant, which brought earth together has been defeated. Same as in if you ever read Enders game, the forces untied for the greater good to destroy the alien threat, mission achieved the old alliances are back. USA, Russia, UK, Japan, China all of it save part of Africa because its been glassed. As for the AI think of the original Marathon as a beta of what is to come, same as halo 1, 2, and 3 beta it wasn't final it was the thought at the time. But so many things are the exact same from Marathon to Halo, you can argue that well they based Halo off of it which i know they did, but i still believe it was to tie everything back to Marathon. Cortana should be dead but who know if bungie was going by the books alot of things would be different, i know that some books were made after halo 1 was released but you would have thought they would have based halo 2 off Halo:First Strike. So all in all we arn't for sure until bungie tells us whats going on, seeing as how lots of Halo 3 speculation was dead on im sure alot of speculation about the Halo to Marathon will be also.

Funny how H3 hasn't been out long and were talking about what will happen in the next game. If they would have simply killed the MC then it would have been done. But then they would have lost fans and money lol.

Edit: the main character came to the USEC ship Marathon he didn't fly it there.

another edit: here's an image from deviant art that a fan of marathon made of the main character look kinda familiar?

another edit lol: wiki page for Marathon-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_Trilogy
notice how it mentions that halo and marathon are similar, it doesn't say much but gives a little insight on how it might be related.

[Aumaan Anubis]

dude halo was influenced from marathon but is the prequel to the marathon game, its not stated that the main character from marathon is the MC nor will it ever be until a game is made.

^^^^^^^^

hence why I reposted the link.

[galvination]

So explain to me how the MC gets onto a UESC ship 200 years later with memory loss, alone on a ship, fighting the pfor nowhere near earth and no humans nearby to be found. There's no difnitive evidence that its the same character with the exception of what that bungie person said. The ending of halo 3 and the begining of marathon are extremely similar but the setting doesn't add up.

[Aumaan Anubis]

So explain to me how the MC gets onto a UESC ship 200 years later with memory loss, alone on a ship, fighting the pfor nowhere near earth and no humans nearby to be found. There's no difnitive evidence that its the same character with the exception of what that bungie person said. The ending of halo 3 and the begining of marathon are extremely similar but the setting doesn't add up.

I'm not the person who would be able to answer that question. Bungie, or maybe Microsoft, controls Halo/Marathon. So, what they say, goes. Now, they could come out later and say, "no, that guy was wrong" and that they're two different people. But, until then, we assume that they're the same characters, they just haven't revealed why or how that came to happen.

It could even happen that the UNSC finds Master Chief. He goes through a whole 'nother story in which, the ending is exactly the same to the beginning of Marathon. We just don't know.

[newbymodder]

no one ever said there wasn't any humans on the Marathon, in fact there are, as in crew, captain and staff, techs ect. they could easily fill him in on the situation and it never states how long you can be in a cryo tube. for all we know you could stay in there a millennium so long as nothing destroyed the power unit. So if bungie follows its original game the MC will be awoken by a bunch of humans, he will be briefed by the captain of the Marathon on what is going on and get him up to speed about the conditions of earth and colonization then the pfor will attack. The MC will see this threat and engage it like he did the covenant, but being so far away they can't easily get FLEETCOM on and call for support so after saving the crew of the Marathon, it becomes apparent that the ships AI is going awal and forces them to do his work, and since Cortana will be long gone there will be nothing to challenge the AI, and i don't think that even a Spartan could stand up to a ships defensives alone.

or as Aumaan said there could be a whole other story about the cheif that leads up the beginning of Marathon, we don't know whats going on in bungies minds

if you want to read alot about the relativity between both games check this
http://halostory.bungie.org/marathon.html

[JacksonCougAr]

I like the idea of either a prequel or a "in-between" game...

[ScottyGEE]

UNSC == UESC ;p
Sgt. Johnson is given a medal in halo 2 which is the highest reward for "a soldier of the United Earth Space Corps..."

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yarly

[Yamagushi]

Like everyone said its 200 years later, if you think about the ending, they said it would be a while before anyone found them, sure if had just ended at that theres a possibility but legendarys ending shows the ship flying towards a planet.... It does not take 200 years to crash into it, more like a week tops. They were leaving it open for another halo not for marathon. They crash into the planet right away and the story continues from there. Both Cortana and MC would be fine.

[GametagAeonFlux]

Like everyone said its 200 years later, if you think about the ending, they said it would be a while before anyone found them, sure if had just ended at that theres a possibility but legendarys ending shows the ship flying towards a planet.... It does not take 200 years to crash into it, more like a week tops. They were leaving it open for another halo not for marathon. They crash into the planet right away and the story continues from there. Both Cortana and MC would be fine.

You say that as though it is fact. For all we know, that scene occurs after two hundred years. All we can do is speculate and assume. You can not say "they were" or anything with certainty in this situation.

[Yamagushi]

Like everyone said its 200 years later, if you think about the ending, they said it would be a while before anyone found them, sure if had just ended at that theres a possibility but legendarys ending shows the ship flying towards a planet.... It does not take 200 years to crash into it, more like a week tops. They were leaving it open for another halo not for marathon. They crash into the planet right away and the story continues from there. Both Cortana and MC would be fine.

You say that as though it is fact. For all we know, that scene occurs after two hundred years. All we can do is speculate and assume. You can not say "they were" or anything with certainty in this situation.

i dont quite get how that scene could be 200 years later, like ppl have said its like 7 years for cortanas life span, unless going half thru the portal and what not at the end somehow made a space time rip and sent them unknowingly 200 years into the future lol, but yea i was just speculating my opinion, none of its fact.