Project working Gravity Rifle

[VC]CaptainValor · Post by **[VC]CaptainValor** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:18 pm

Now don't be fooled, this may be my first post but I am no n00b to modding Halo. I have experimented with hex editing and know my way around HMT3. I'm working with Lebowski on a couple of projects, but I have one of my own that I'd like to get going with your help.

My goal is to replace the Plasma Rifle with a fully-functional Gravity Rifle in MP.

So far, I've realized the only MP map I can do this on without a map rebuild is BG. For some reason a fair amount of the GR data (seemingly enough to have a working weapon) exists in that map already, but only in that map. For starters, I tried a simple meta swap in HMT3, using the "Swap" command (inside the Plasma Rifle weapon tag) to swap the PR meta for the GR meta. This resulted in absolutely nothing. The PR performed and looked exactly the same as it always does. Next I tried extracting the GR weapon metadata into a file (with "recursive" checked) and Injected that metadata file into the PR weapon tag. Same result, absolutely no change. So right now I'm at a loss where to go from here, and I need your suggestions.

So guys, what do you think I should try next?

Deadly_Shadow · Post by **Deadly_Shadow** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:23 pm

Make A Gravity Rifle Model So We Can See What We Are Shooting At And Stuff.

cheeseron · Post by **cheeseron** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:28 pm

yeah i put it in and all it does is shoot flames

[VC]CaptainValor · Post by **[VC]CaptainValor** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:32 pm

Could you be more specific about exactly how you "put it in", please? I'd like to at least get that far and then see if I can go further.

jce108 · Post by **jce108** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:35 pm

wut would be the point now that we have the flame thrower i mean it would be kinda kool but still

[VC]CaptainValor · Post by **[VC]CaptainValor** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:36 pm

Well my goal is to get it working how it was originally intended to work.

sepiku · Post by **sepiku** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:11 pm

the gravity riffle supposedly shoots flames

Deadly_Shadow · Post by **Deadly_Shadow** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:12 pm

If you knew how it intended to word It'd be easier. Try emailing a guy from Bungie.

[VC]CaptainValor · Post by **[VC]CaptainValor** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:14 pm

First things first. Can one of you just please tell me, in detail, how you get the GR rifle to become usable in BG?

Deadly_Shadow · Post by **Deadly_Shadow** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:19 pm

Change a eapon to Gravity Rifle. Rifle is located in Blood Gulch so it is just simple value swapping.

[VC]CaptainValor · Post by **[VC]CaptainValor** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:21 pm

Ahhh, value instead of meta...

Thanks for the clarification.

FormerCide · Post by **FormerCide** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:23 pm

I thought it used the same projectile as the Xbox flamethrower--what you would need to do is manually reconstruct the projectile via hex, I'd think. Of course, that isn't easy. Maybe you could borrow different lines of code from different weapons, I guess, but it's no easy task...

Deadly_Shadow · Post by **Deadly_Shadow** » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:39 pm

Wait... You mean just changin projectile of gravity rifle? Don't you just change flame to sumtin else? Well, if it doesn't.. Batch Extract Blood Gulch and save meta data for sumtin, lets say wraith mortar. Paste all of Wraith Mortar data into bgs batch extracted data. Rebuild map and choose additional files as Wraiths Mortar. Now change projectile of flamethrower to wraith mortar... I think...

Lazer · Post by **Lazer** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 3:30 am

My take on the Gravity Rifle:
When you shoot it isn't shooting flames, it creates a flame at the target. This was probably a temp graphic. I'm guessing it was meant to create an effect that looks like it is bending gravity or something, because a split second after the flame appears that area gets "crushed by gravity" or, in other words damages the target.

How to fix?
Try replacing that GR flame with a better looking graphic. Maybe the teleporter sprite will work? Then we gotta find a way to give it a first person model. I'm not sure how possible it is, but it might require a little research.

Other info:
Did you know sentinels can pick it up? I made a mod for Hangemhigh where everyone was sentinels and you had you default laser or you could go and pick up one of the many GRs laying on the ground to crush your opponents with. I liked the whole concept, but I needed to make the sentinels a bit more mobile to be of much fun. Also I need some improved model injection cuz it wasn't coming out as good as I hoped. :[

[VC]CaptainValor · Post by **[VC]CaptainValor** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:18 am

I think you're onto something there. Could we possibly use the same principle that allows the Active C to change the MC's appearence to make the GR look like it was bending gravity? I need to do some more experienting but I think it could work.

shadowbeast · Post by **shadowbeast** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:48 am

to 'put it in' u would have to build an HUD interface for the GR wouldn't u?

Lazer · Post by **Lazer** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 11:05 am

shadowbeast wrote:to 'put it in' u would have to build an HUD interface for the GR wouldn't u?

Yes... along with a first person model and all that. How or if it would work I'm not sure. It's worth looking into though.

sepiku · Post by **sepiku** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:35 pm

as for the flames ... id ont think that there a temp. garaphic...look at the flames in the lower half of the covie gun turet... blue flames... i think that that is just how bungie chose to show a distortion in gravity

shadowbeast · Post by **shadowbeast** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:43 pm

what about the Weapon HUD. wouldn't that need to be made for it?
or replaced with something else? or am i a complete idiot?

shadowbeast · Post by **shadowbeast** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:45 pm

woops already posted this^^^^

nevermind