No shader effects for cloaked enemies on newer gfx cards?

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:27 am

Hello! After discovering this -very nice- forum I thought I finally give this a shot:

For several years(!) now I have the problem that on every -newer- graphics card (right now on my 7900GTO) the shader-effect when the player or enemies are cloaking/invisible won't work. Actually the weapon of the player for example should "distort" the view a little, like a fluid. The same goes for the enemies.

Please try to use cloaking and test if you get the right effect. If it DOES NOT work you just get a semi-transparent weapon (most people won't notice the difference, but on the XBOX it looks by far better).

For a quick test go to Blood Gulch in Muliplayer and login/logout until you can find that small pyramid thingie that makes you invisible in the level. Should be not far from the starting spawn point. Whoever has the effect on a Geforce card - please take a screenshot.

PS.: Another mod here on the site seems to actually ADD shaders to surfaces, so this might be possible to mod back in!!

Thanks for any help in advance!

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 1:44 am

Hmm , check the video settings or the resolution.Make sure you arent playing it in safe mode.

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:04 am

Of course I checked that and everything else, too - latest drivers, clean windows, no problems with other games, all working fine. I tested this on several current and lastgen graphics cards, I am SURE that everyone with a geforce7900 or similar will miss this effect.

Can you see it? Looks a bit like the cloaking in the "Predator" movies.

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:07 am

Reinstall halo, update computer??Whitch Direct X are you Using????

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:11 am

Just reinstalled Halo from original CD, DirectX9.0c, no mods applied, latest patch on it, Windows XP genuine SP2. That should be enough proof that I am not kidding. It just doesn't work anymore.

If you have the game and can take a look - please make a screenshot of the effect and post it here, thanks.

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:15 am

Ok , heres the problem same as mine in the other computer : The Direct X and The Video Card.Maybe RAM is in this problem too.How much is your ram?

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:18 am

What do you mean? 2gig of ram (quality). Well of course it is a problem with my graphicscard/directx/setting, but to find out how to FIX it, I need some information. Do other people eperience this too? Does it work on the 8800? does it work on the 6800? Does it work on ATI cards?

If it is working for you - post a screenshot. If you can not see the correct shader effect, tell me what graphics card you have and I will add this here.

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:23 am

ATI , i think no.Radeon 8800 hmm... I think you have to install at least Direct X10 with your system info.I think that will repair the problem.

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:24 am

No DX10 on XP and there is no Radeon 8800, I meant the NVidia GeForce 8800 GTX or whatever. Anyone here with such card or some knowledge about the problem at all?

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:27 am

I got it...And for DX10 for XP There is!!!!!!Hmm othercomputer is on Nvidia to.You can see its invisible only at the angles right??Because on some computers when you move the mouse the invisibility color is changing and that sux.

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:31 am

Yes, I know both effects. The color of the invisibility changing and the simple transparency effect. But this can't be a DX9/DX10 problem, since some people got this to work on DX9 as far as I know. Can't you make a screenshot of your game when invisible?

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:33 am

I?? Ok...

Hmm , On this computer i have Crystal Invisibility ...Graphics are bad because i have converted them to JPG with Default Editor.

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:50 am

The Reason it looks so much crappier is because Gearbox wanted it to look crappier.

Not literaly, they took out a lot of the shaders, im guessing so that it could run easier on crappy computers (mine).

There's a shader restoration "patch" you can download, i think it's stickied in the outstanding mods section.

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:51 am

I think it contains only Glow effects.

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:25 am

You.. WOW, you got the right effect!! That's the crystal clear invisible effect I WANT! Mine is just transparent! Which graphics card do you have?????

@DeadHamster: Yes, I know, and I have a strange problem with that patch too

Strange day..

See my other post on the shader topic.

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 am

Hmm ok i will give you the info ... Mother board , 512 mb ram , Windows XP SP 2 and 3.00 GHz.AMD processor.

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:21 am

And what graphics card do you have exactly? Geforce8800?

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:25 am

From where can i found info for this??Im not system spec.

dexx · Post by **dexx** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:32 am

Right mouseclick on the desktop, then go to "Controls" (or whatever that's called in your country), then go to the "Advanced" tab and there will be some other tabs, one of them is your NVidia graphicscard config menu, and the tab is also named like your card.

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:36 am

Ati Catalyst , LG Flatron l1750s and Radeon 9550.Here are they ... blahblahblah , monitor and the radeon.