Iv'e been thinking

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:20 am

Why does everyone have HMT and HHT. I mean seriously. what cant you do on hmt that you can do on hht?

please tell me, i see no point in useing hht anymore. and i have found a fast way to pmi that is so infront of your face...but you dont take avantage of it.

so tell me please, what can hht do that hmt cant? please go ahead.

V0Lt4Ge · Post by **V0Lt4Ge** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:22 am

Andrew_b wrote:Why does everyone have HMT and HHT. I mean seriously. what cant you do on hmt that you can do on hht?

Dependency swapping.

Plus, HHT can edit Halo CE maps.

EDIT: @ JK: Tee hee. ^_^

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:22 am

Andrew_b wrote:what cant you do on hmt that you can do on hht?

Dependency swaps... That's all I can think of.

Edit: Damnit voltage, you beat me to it!

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:26 am

you can do dependancy swaps...it only takes a minute longer

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V0Lt4Ge · Post by **V0Lt4Ge** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:27 am

Andrew_b wrote:you can do dependancy swaps...it only takes a minute faster

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No, you can't. You can do meta swaps, but not dependency swaps.

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:28 am

lol yes you can

shall i tell?

V0Lt4Ge · Post by **V0Lt4Ge** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:28 am

Go ahead.

Altimit01 · Post by **Altimit01** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:30 am

I can't wait to see this.

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:30 am

now...with hht you can do this faster...but

extract the meta

open the xml with notepad

find your dependancy

swap it...

like i said it only takes a minute longer...but hey, your more open now kinda.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:33 am

Hmm... I'll stick with the HHT way thanks ;p

youhoo7 · Post by **youhoo7** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:33 am

andrew=win

Altimit01 · Post by **Altimit01** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:33 am

Well damn. Forgot about that. But it's still more of a hassle when there's a program that can do it much quicker and cleaner.

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:35 am

so...modding isnt about quickness...its about modding. but i do have a faster way to pmi

want me to share?

everyone basicly does this...but not when they should do it a second time.

V0Lt4Ge · Post by **V0Lt4Ge** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:38 am

Andrew_b wrote:so...modding isnt about quickness...its about modding.

Why take the long path when the shorter one leads you to the same result?

I will admit that I would've never thought of that, but that's only because I knew the easiest and most efficient way already.

Andrew_b wrote:but i do have a faster way to pmi want me to share?

Who's stopping you? Go ahead.

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:46 am

ok so say you want to pmi an AI

"omgz all the tuts say to pmi the bipd, actr, and actv i must do that"

no...actually all you need to recursively extract is the actv...and all you need to put in when you rebuild is "plasma_rifle.actv.meta" because all these tags are linked through the xml...hmt knows to grab what tags.

say you want to do multiple weapons...oh but you dont want the "hassle" of dealing with those tags...do i hear a itmc?

itmc have the weapons tags referenced in them...so walla...the weapons come out with the extraction...you rebuild by choosing the itmc.

"woah i just cut my pmi time from 20 minutes to like 2."

Patrickh · Post by **Patrickh** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:38 pm

Andrew_b wrote:ok so say you want to pmi an AI

"omgz all the tuts say to pmi the bipd, actr, and actv i must do that"

no...actually all you need to recursively extract is the actv...and all you need to put in when you rebuild is "plasma_rifle.actv.meta" because all these tags are linked through the xml...hmt knows to grab what tags.

say you want to do multiple weapons...oh but you dont want the "hassle" of dealing with those tags...do i hear a itmc?

itmc have the weapons tags referenced in them...so walla...the weapons come out with the extraction...you rebuild by choosing the itmc.

"woah i just cut my pmi time from 20 minutes to like 2."

heh, I knew that..

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:52 pm

Patrickh wrote:
Andrew_b wrote:ok so say you want to pmi an AI

"omgz all the tuts say to pmi the bipd, actr, and actv i must do that"

no...actually all you need to recursively extract is the actv...and all you need to put in when you rebuild is "plasma_rifle.actv.meta" because all these tags are linked through the xml...hmt knows to grab what tags.

say you want to do multiple weapons...oh but you dont want the "hassle" of dealing with those tags...do i hear a itmc?

itmc have the weapons tags referenced in them...so walla...the weapons come out with the extraction...you rebuild by choosing the itmc.

"woah i just cut my pmi time from 20 minutes to like 2."
heh, I knew that..

yeah...its only the people who dont think dont know that...

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:57 pm

Andrew_b wrote:so...modding isnt about quickness...its about modding.

Well I could walk 10 miles, but why not drive if I have a car? I'd still get to my destination, which is what it was about, but why not save time and effort if I have the option to do so?

Patrickh · Post by **Patrickh** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:06 pm

Ah yes, on topic: HHT is an extremely useful tool. Honestly, I can't think of a single use for meta swaps, and your way of dependency swapping is, well, dumb. HHT does the job way faster in a more organized fashion. I use it all the time.

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:08 pm

Many people don't know that hht has tag editing aswell. Press the blue arrow where it says dependency swapper.

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