GFX Emblems going to undeserving people?

Lt Slap a ho · Post by **Lt Slap a ho** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:04 am

Well I haven't been on here in a while, but I come back to check how Halomods is doing, and to my disappointment I find that the GFX section has grown weak. I have been told that Armed Civilian got a GFX emblem for his Sparta sig, which IMO is not very good. I have talked to some other people on the site, and they don't think he deserves it either. And as for Sarb, he is yet to impress me in the visual appeal category, yet he has 2 chevrons? Alot of people on here are better than Sarb, like Ravnzcroft for instance. Just thought I would give my 2 cents.

Edit: And Xiion, you are definately not a GFX Expert...

Edit: Edit: And also, I think Two-One deserves a second Chevron.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:07 am

I'm not saying any names, but I feel it too has fallen ;x.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:12 am

A lot of emblems are too subjective. This happens to be one of them.

Lt Slap a ho wrote:Edit: Edit: And also, I think Two-One deserves a second Chevron.

Emblems aren't a democracy.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:17 am

Tural wrote:
Lt Slap a ho wrote:Edit: Edit: And also, I think Two-One deserves a second Chevron.
Emblems aren't a democracy.

While that is true, he seems neglected, he should be looked over.

Lt Slap a ho · Post by **Lt Slap a ho** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:18 am

Never said they were, I just think he deserves it. It's an opinion which many others believe, and as detox said, he should be looked over.

Sarb · Post by **Sarb** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:22 am

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
lawl
awesome.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:22 am

Lt Slap a ho wrote:Well I haven't been on here in a while, but I come back to check how Halomods is doing, and to my disappointment I find that the GFX section has grown weak. I have been told that Armed Civilian got a GFX emblem for his Sparta sig, which IMO is not very good. I have talked to some other people on the site, and they don't think he deserves it either. And as for Sarb, he is yet to impress me in the visual appeal category, yet he has 2 chevrons? Alot of people on here are better than Sarb, like Ravnzcroft for instance. Just thought I would give my 2 cents.

Edit: And Xiion, you are definately not a GFX Expert...
Edit: Edit: And also, I think Two-One deserves a second Chevron.

State reasons why. I'm not the emblem distributor, but for one thing, Two-One only posts a sig once in a blue moon...even if they are pretty good if/when he does. I can't even remember the last thing Ravn made, and Sarb doesn't have his third chevron most likely because he doesn't have the wow factor that people like Alexei and MaxPower did. Everybody pretty much loved every single thing they made, whereas Ravn/Sarb/Two-One have people object their graphics every once in a while.

As Tural said, this emblem is a little too subjective, and probably doesn't have a "requirement" other than the actual distributor's discretion. It may suck that people you like don't get it, or that people you don't like do get it, but shit happens and you just gotta deal with it. End of story.

G.I.R. · Post by **G.I.R.** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:23 am

-DeToX- wrote:
Tural wrote:
Lt Slap a ho wrote:Edit: Edit: And also, I think Two-One deserves a second Chevron.
Emblems aren't a democracy.
While that is true, he seems neglected, he should be looked over.

I disagree, I've seen plenty of others' works far better than Two-One's. =/

EDIT: What GTAF said.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:26 am

Does that matter G.I.R? This is complaints and suggestions, hes posting his opinion, his complaints and his suggestions.

Oh well I guess my opinion here doesn't matter, nor does LT's, someone here will just counter it, say something else.

Oh well...

I'm not saying anyone doesn't deserve them, but it really has grown weak.

Lt Slap a ho · Post by **Lt Slap a ho** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:26 am

Alexei posts every blue moon yet he has a third Chevron...

You gave him a third chevron just because he is good even though he rarely posts.

G.I.R. · Post by **G.I.R.** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:31 am

-DeToX- wrote:Oh well I guess my opinion here doesn't matter, nor does LT's, someone here will just counter it, say something else.

Sorry, neglect that part of my post, I disregarded that. His opinion does matter.

EDIT: Disregard it completely, I re-read GTAF's post and see I missed something.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:32 am

Lt Slap a ho wrote:You gave him a third chevron just because he is good even though he rarely posts.

Who is "You"? You're addressing Gametag, and he's not the person with control of that emblem.

Also, this is what we are arguing over:

It is a picture. A 35x16 picture under your name.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:33 am

Lt Slap a ho wrote:Alexei posts every blue moon yet he has a third Chevron...

You gave him a third chevron just because he is good even though he rarely posts.

Alexei used to post fairly often, and when he does, his stuff is exceptionally great. There are no "it's good, but..." posts in his topics. He has won a contest on DeviantArt with his work. He's not just another graphics maker, he stands out among the rest, regardless of whether or not he posts often. That's why he deserves his third chevron.

Sarb · Post by **Sarb** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:37 am

Complaining doesn't seem like it'll make much sense.
The emblem person gave the emblems based on his liking, he's not gonna reconsider weather he lieks something or not because of a complaint.

And if you think the only reson I'm saying this is because it has something to do with me, then your completely right.

Lt Slap a ho · Post by **Lt Slap a ho** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:38 am

Tural wrote:Also, this is what we are arguing over:

It is a picture. A 35x16 picture under your name.

Yes it is a picture, but it is meant to be distributed to people who actually deserve it, If you want this site to be a site known for throwing around emblems like they are nothing and giving them to people who dont deserve it, then why have them at all?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:41 am

Lt Slap a ho wrote:Yes it is a picture, but it is meant to be distributed to people who actually deserve it, If you want this site to be a site known for throwing around emblems like they are nothing and giving them to people who dont deserve it, then why have them at all?

And who decides who deserves it? The person put in charge of the emblem. Not the public. It's subjective, the only way you'll ever have a completely fair emblem is if you base it on quantity, not quality. One person could make 50 worthless images and get it, but another person could make 10 amazing ones and not get it. Subjectivity will always be there, you just have to deal with it. Once someone has been given it, it's not very good to go back and say "Well, on second thought, you suck. I'm taking this emblem away from you."

Lt Slap a ho · Post by **Lt Slap a ho** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:48 am

Tural wrote: And who decides who deserves it? The person put in charge of the emblem. Not the public. It's subjective, the only way you'll ever have a completely fair emblem is if you base it on quantity, not quality. One person could make 50 worthless images and get it, but another person could make 10 amazing ones and not get it. Subjectivity will always be there, you just have to deal with it. Once someone has been given it, it's not very good to go back and say "Well, on second thought, you suck. I'm taking this emblem away from you."

Why would you base it on quantity? Why would someone that makes 50 terrible ones get it, and someone who makes 10 amazing ones not get it. The point of this topic isn't to take someones emblems away, or to give them to new people, as tural said you cant go back and take them away from people. My point is maybe the person in charge of the emblem should take this topic into consideration next time they are deciding whether or not to give the emblem to someone.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:49 am

Lt Slap a ho wrote:Why would you base it on quantity?

He was saying that would be the only way it would be a "fair" emblem. Right now it's just a matter of whether or not the emblem distributor feels they are worthy of the emblem.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:50 am

Lt Slap a ho wrote:Why would you base it on quantity?

Tural wrote:the only way you'll ever have a completely fair emblem is if you base it on quantity, not quality

Was that not clear enough? Quantity can be measured, quality can not. The only way anything can be 100% fair is if you have a concrete way of measuring it. Hence my later point, it will always be subjective, and there will be many times you, or others, don't agree with the choices.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:58 am

Tural wrote:
Lt Slap a ho wrote:Why would you base it on quantity?

Tural wrote:the only way you'll ever have a completely fair emblem is if you base it on quantity, not quality
Was that not clear enough? Quantity can be measured, quality can not. The only way anything can be 100% fair is if you have a concrete way of measuring it. Hence my later point, it will always be subjective, and there will be many times you, or others, don't agree with the choices.

Or if you have a couple of emblem givers all with different tastes, that discuss together what emblem should be given to whom, and what level of it.

That way one may be biased to one type of sig, another to another, and you have a couple of likes going around. ;x.

But I'm not trying to complain, just trying to contribute with my opinions.

I hope somebody doesn't hate me for this.

I hate you for other reasons. -GTAF

I know... EDIT: Oh, you were joking ;x

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