[MODEL]German Rifle

[XMG]Kodiak · Post by **[XMG]Kodiak** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:06 pm

I made this quite a bit later than the Bren LMG. and we found out y our models didnt look so good. we were using gmax, and we were new to it, and now we have it figured out pretty well. thsi is a breakthrough model, kinda. i hope u like it.

Dead Killa \ D · Post by **Dead Killa \ D** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:15 pm

meh...looks a bit boxy

guyfromga2000 · Post by **guyfromga2000** » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:24 pm

to me your best model yet 8/10 some, its to me its mostly smooth theres only a few places needing more smoothing

=Hunter= · Post by **=Hunter=** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:12 am

I'll be straight with you, it's terrible. I don't know how you're modeling, but learn to plane model and find some good reference images.

This topic should help.

[XMG]Kodiak · Post by **[XMG]Kodiak** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:19 pm

i know how to use 3ds max. i am making a map as we speak. think of extinction + hugeass + hotzone + infinity. i made this in gmax, which doesnt have nearly as many tools as 3ds max. i find gun modeling in gmax easier than 3ds max. so dont try to persuade me to make guns in 3ds max. and before u say its terrible, make a tag and try it in game. my friend and i made a tag, and it looks very nice in our map. no u cannot have the tag.

Dead Killa \ D · Post by **Dead Killa \ D** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:36 pm

he never persuaded you to use 3ds max dumby, thers always wings 3d and milkshape

[XMG]Kodiak · Post by **[XMG]Kodiak** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 12:39 pm

i said dont try to make me model them in 3ds max dumb dumb. i never said he did. i was forewarning him. wow u guys are illiterate. go to school. and u guys should stop telling me the gun is blocky. this isnt a phaser gun from 2942. its a rifle from 1942. WWII. i know you guys didnt study history and your life revolves around halo, but there are other things that you can learn. here is a picture of a k98. my model does kinda look like it.

guyfromga2000 · Post by **guyfromga2000** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:32 pm

[XMG]Kodiak wrote:i said dont try to make me model them in 3ds max dumb dumb. i never said he did. i was forewarning him. wow u guys are illiterate. go to school. and u guys should stop telling me the gun is blocky. this isnt a phaser gun from 2942. its a rifle from 1942. WWII. i know you guys didnt study history and your life revolves around halo, but there are other things that you can learn. here is a picture of a k98. my model does kinda look like it.

dude dont talk about peoples life revolving around halo when you just released 3 models almost in the same day

Jsk1610 · Post by **Jsk1610** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:44 pm

guyfromga2000 wrote:
[XMG]Kodiak wrote:i said dont try to make me model them in 3ds max dumb dumb. i never said he did. i was forewarning him. wow u guys are illiterate. go to school. and u guys should stop telling me the gun is blocky. this isnt a phaser gun from 2942. its a rifle from 1942. WWII. i know you guys didnt study history and your life revolves around halo, but there are other things that you can learn. here is a picture of a k98. my model does kinda look like it.
dude dont talk about peoples life revolving around halo when you just released 3 models almost in the same day

Hey he could've made em over a longer period of time. I do think it is a "little" bit boxy. Also it's hard to see so can you render it?

=Hunter= · Post by **=Hunter=** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:30 pm

Actually I did study history and know quite a lot about WWII. I also model with gmax and have gotten a weapon ingame, an M16A1. And I am quite literate, in fact I am one of the best readers/writers in the entire of eastern Australia.

It helps to know people before you start making false accusations

Just follow the plane modeling tutorial in the topic I linked, you should find your models will improve a lot. At the moment, they're just jagged messes that only vaguely represent what they're meant to be... I don't know what method you're using to model them, but it's not doing you any favours.

[XMG]Kodiak · Post by **[XMG]Kodiak** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 9:44 am

Well, I'm sorry if I made false assumptions =Hunter=. It may just be that an online conversation does not require as much time as a literary composition such as an essay or a novel, but you did make a big mistake in one of your sentences. Here it is, "I also model with gmax and have gotten a weapon ingame, an M16A1. And I am quite literate, in fact I am one of the best readers/writers in the entire of eastern Australia."
And about my models "looking like jagged messes", I will render them and see if that helps bring out its true shape. I did make these models over a long period of time. I just like releasing my work in bulk. It makes it a lot easier.

=Hunter= · Post by **=Hunter=** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:57 pm

The stock would look a lot better smoothed, but it looks like there's some random face cutting through the centre of it and a bit of an indent which shouldn't be there, it seems to split it in half. Get rid of that and smooth it, and it should look a lot better. Also, work on the bolt handle a little and add a trigger, and use a 5- or 7-sided cylinder for the barrel.

And my spelling and grammar can't be perfect all the time

galvination · Post by **galvination** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:03 pm

here is a picture of a k98. my model does kinda look like it.

actually guns seem to be getting blockier, as time goes on, note the m1 garand is rather smooth and simplistic while the m4 has many grooves and sharp curves...

RaVNzCRoFT · Post by **RaVNzCRoFT** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 5:08 am

How do you fire it? I sure as hell see no trigger; do you just say "BANG"?

[XMG]Kodiak · Post by **[XMG]Kodiak** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:08 am

thats a really good question ravenzcroft. take a look at the halo weapons and you will see that they have no trigger either. and thx for the advice hunter, ill try that. about the indent that you said wasnt supposed to be there, look at the picture of the k98 i posted, and look above the trigger.

=Hunter= · Post by **=Hunter=** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 7:34 am

I didn't mean that one- there's some weird triangulation on the stock that looks like a crack of some form, running back from the grip. I don't know if it actually is an indent but juding by the lighting there's something weird happening there.

You may as well add the trigger, too; it's not going to add a lot to the polycount, or at least it shouldn't.

[XMG]Kodiak · Post by **[XMG]Kodiak** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:33 pm

that isnt an indentation. it is just a piece of the stock that is sticking out a bit for a litle bit more detail. i will render it if someone would post it in .obj format.

=Hunter= · Post by **=Hunter=** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:13 pm

The lighting on it makes it look like it sticks out a little far, can you post a pic with the gun rotated a bit?

[XMG]Kodiak · Post by **[XMG]Kodiak** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 1:44 pm

if you could get it in milkshape and post it in .obj format, then I could. i had to do part in milkshape and part in gmax, so my milkshape expired, but my .md3 exporter still worked.

=Hunter= · Post by **=Hunter=** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:35 am

I don't have Milkshape any more either... sorry, you'll have to ask someone else.