[WIP] "A Headshot for the Bsp-size-limit" [lock me

DWells55 · Post by **DWells55** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:21 pm

Vicarious wrote:wow HSM , very nice , Im gonna send you a PM about something ok?
PS - the mod is extremely awesome , I just cant figure out wat that is in the sky

btw - I tried to get you a job at bungie , but they just locked my post and banned me for a week

Hahahaha, that was you?

Vicarious · Post by **Vicarious** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:23 pm

DWells55 wrote:
Vicarious wrote:wow HSM , very nice , Im gonna send you a PM about something ok?
PS - the mod is extremely awesome , I just cant figure out wat that is in the sky

btw - I tried to get you a job at bungie , but they just locked my post and banned me for a week
Hahahaha, that was you?

rofl! You saw it! HA - Yea it was me

MasterChief2829 · Post by **MasterChief2829** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:08 pm

O_O... It's all coming so fast...

smacktalker · Post by **smacktalker** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:24 pm

DWells55 wrote:
Vicarious wrote:wow HSM , very nice , Im gonna send you a PM about something ok?
PS - the mod is extremely awesome , I just cant figure out wat that is in the sky

btw - I tried to get you a job at bungie , but they just locked my post and banned me for a week
Hahahaha, that was you?

can we have a link please? i'd like to read it ^^

DWells55 · Post by **DWells55** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:52 pm

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=8388149

Vicarious · Post by **Vicarious** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:56 pm

lol , they deleted the part about HSM - but they left the pix (AND I KNOW THE PIX ARENT HSM'S MOD! - I HAD SUMTHIN ELSE ABOUT HIM!!)

I AM DRXTHIRST

x088x · Post by **x088x** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:29 pm

=sw=warlord wrote:i hate to be a scrouge but....im not really impressed sure the first few sp-mps u did were ok but now it seems ur just getting carried away....

Dumbest thing I've heard all day. That's all you have to say to someone who is on the verge of figuring out the BSP limit, something that NOBODY has done before and will be the source of many great mods? How is he getting carried away? Since when is there a limit on how many things you can achieve or how many mods you can make?

=sw=warlord · Post by **=sw=warlord** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:57 pm

all I'm seeing at the moment is sp-mp mods its becoming a common thing around here before it was all Machs which IMO was worse seeing as everyone hated log mods but isn't a mach mod the same?
anyhow personally i couldn't give a monkeys elbow about whether hes kicking the boundaries back or what tbh but it just seems everyone is jumping on to doing sp-mp mods I've heard or rather seen a few times people say its meant to be really easy now for halo 2 so if its so easy then why is this section of bsp so important?

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:01 pm

At first I may have taken your side warlord, but your argument kind of sucks... You're using the standards in halo1 and putting them in halo2...If you were actually around and active in halo2 modding you'd see that around 70% of bsp's cannot be converted due to the bsp being larger than the original and then not allowing the map to load.
You are also referring to log mods, log mods for halo are gay because they are exactly that...Logs. In halo2 you can create a totally different level out of things and if you havn't noticed all the minimum 3 page topics in the halo2 downloads section whenever a mach mod is released, you'll find thats it not 'omg log mods suck" but its usually "wow a new level".

Vicarious · Post by **Vicarious** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:02 pm

=sw=warlord wrote:all I'm seeing at the moment is sp-mp mods its becoming a common thing around here before it was all Machs which IMO was worse seeing as everyone hated log mods but isn't a mach mod the same?
anyhow personally i couldn't give a monkeys elbow about whether hes kicking the boundaries back or what tbh but it just seems everyone is jumping on to doing sp-mp mods I've heard or rather seen a few times people say its meant to be really easy now for halo 2 so if its so easy then why is this section of bsp so important?

Because there is only a list of BSP's that you can use w/o your map going over 80 mb. And if your wondering - if a MP map is larger than 80mb it wont load. And this BSP isnt one that you can use without making your map larger than 80mb , and HSM has found a way around that!

TunesRus90 · Post by **TunesRus90** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:08 pm

Vicarious wrote:Because there is only a list of BSP's that you can use w/o your map going over 80 mb. And if your wondering - if a MP map is larger than 80mb it wont load. And this BSP isnt one that you can use without making your map larger than 80mb , and HSM has found a way around that!

I believe you are confused too. The reason only certain BSP's worked, was that the new BSP tag had to be the same size or smaller than the original BSP tag. This is what headshot is trying to overcome. The 80mb size limit for multiplayer maps is a completely seperate issue, and I'm pretty sure you would need to edit the XBE to remove that.

=sw=warlord · Post by **=sw=warlord** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:08 pm

i was just looking at this from a 3rd person veiw i see lots of sp-mps for halo 2 ive heard its much easier than modding halo 1 when it comes to rebuilds and sp-mp i dont really read up much on halo 2 seeing as most of the mods i see dont really impress me i hardly see many mods that make me think hmm mb i should try that somtime....
i also notice a few people actuly fight over who uses which machs?
i mean come on its a MACH! its from halo 2 therefore you can use it any mod you like...
mb if i get ftp going on my xbox il start modding halo 2 for a little while.....

Elite747 · Post by **Elite747** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:51 pm

hmm... no pics of MC standing on the BSP?
I believe its true, cus headshotmasta is 1337, but it'd be nice to make sure its not a phony like that 1 guy did Hamgemhigh.
I can't wait till this is released.

But you also got to make a tut. I have had a mod idea for months but was never possible cus the map's BSP was too big.

Vicarious · Post by **Vicarious** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:29 pm

TunesRus90 wrote:
Vicarious wrote:Because there is only a list of BSP's that you can use w/o your map going over 80 mb. And if your wondering - if a MP map is larger than 80mb it wont load. And this BSP isnt one that you can use without making your map larger than 80mb , and HSM has found a way around that!
I believe you are confused too. The reason only certain BSP's worked, was that the new BSP tag had to be the same size or smaller than the original BSP tag. This is what headshot is trying to overcome. The 80mb size limit for multiplayer maps is a completely seperate issue, and I'm pretty sure you would need to edit the XBE to remove that.

yes , that may be true , but , if the BSP is bigger than the original BSP , then obviously the map is going to be bigger than 80mb- It happens to me everytime I try to use any BSP thats not on the list that you can use.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:37 pm

Vicarious wrote:
TunesRus90 wrote:
Vicarious wrote:Because there is only a list of BSP's that you can use w/o your map going over 80 mb. And if your wondering - if a MP map is larger than 80mb it wont load. And this BSP isnt one that you can use without making your map larger than 80mb , and HSM has found a way around that!
I believe you are confused too. The reason only certain BSP's worked, was that the new BSP tag had to be the same size or smaller than the original BSP tag. This is what headshot is trying to overcome. The 80mb size limit for multiplayer maps is a completely seperate issue, and I'm pretty sure you would need to edit the XBE to remove that.
yes , that may be true , but , if the BSP is bigger than the original BSP , then obviously the map is going to be bigger than 80mb- It happens to me everytime I try to use any BSP thats not on the list that you can use.

I can keep it under 80 MB, it still wont load...

Vicarious · Post by **Vicarious** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:52 pm

Okay , well , I havent used a BSP like that yet and we need to get back on topic before this gets locked.

RA1N THE ELITE · Post by **RA1N THE ELITE** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:17 pm

this is so sweet. hsm can do it because he is the masta. don't let ur fans down ok?

Monkey Terd · Post by **Monkey Terd** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:24 pm

-DeToX- wrote:
Vicarious wrote:
TunesRus90 wrote:
Vicarious wrote:Because there is only a list of BSP's that you can use w/o your map going over 80 mb. And if your wondering - if a MP map is larger than 80mb it wont load. And this BSP isnt one that you can use without making your map larger than 80mb , and HSM has found a way around that!
I believe you are confused too. The reason only certain BSP's worked, was that the new BSP tag had to be the same size or smaller than the original BSP tag. This is what headshot is trying to overcome. The 80mb size limit for multiplayer maps is a completely seperate issue, and I'm pretty sure you would need to edit the XBE to remove that.
yes , that may be true , but , if the BSP is bigger than the original BSP , then obviously the map is going to be bigger than 80mb- It happens to me everytime I try to use any BSP thats not on the list that you can use.
I can keep it under 80 MB, it still wont load...

As smactalker just said..thats a completly diffrent issue. What HSM has done here, is break the BSP META SIZE LIMIT...

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:52 pm

Monkey Terd wrote:As smactalker just said..thats a completly diffrent issue. What HSM has done here, is break the BSP META SIZE LIMIT...

I already know that... Im just telling the guy above that its not about the 80MB here... So tell that to the other guy, not me...

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:37 pm

Quoting trees are the suck...
I'm no mod but I'll say stop it. Edit your quotes to have only the relevant points in it.

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