workin flood infection form in mp

T1xAnton · Post by **T1xAnton** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:08 pm

Stop arguing guys... IMO this isnt Correct AI it may be some type/sort of AI but not the AI I have always imagined.. Dont get me wrong this is amazing!!! And with yelo this type of stuff is going to pop up everywhere... ^^.

LuxuriousMeat · Post by **LuxuriousMeat** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:09 pm

so all of you who are dissapointed that you weren't the "first" to have AI in MP can just get over it and stop ripping on snakejknight.

he isnt the 1st and how is a script ai its told what to do it doesnt make its own decisions

RA1N THE ELITE · Post by **RA1N THE ELITE** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:09 pm

Trulife8342 wrote:*** finally, God ***. Someone actually understands what I was trying to say, and I bet they'll still keep on bitching on how its AI in MP.

well it's not REALLY ai in mp but it is close enough to have fun with it.

Trulife8342 · Post by **Trulife8342** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:11 pm

RA1N THE ELITE wrote:
Trulife8342 wrote:*** finally, God ***. Someone actually understands what I was trying to say, and I bet they'll still keep on bitching on how its AI in MP.
well it's not REALLY ai in mp but it is close enough to have fun with it.

Mu point exactly, Snake dont think I dont like your mod, It is fun, im just letting everyone know what it truly is thats all.

0mfc0 · Post by **0mfc0** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:14 pm

Fuck people... jeez, how long does it take to get it through your fucking skulls that this is just a simple script... AI runs off something more complicated than a simple script. You have to add many of the things Trulife was talking about. Unless a AI character has alll of those things then it is technically not AI. I would think people of Brok3n Halo that have put extensive research in this would understand the basis of AI and know what they were talking about.

r0tten · Post by **r0tten** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:20 pm

snakejknight wrote:
Tural wrote:Meh, I wouldn't consider it fully functional AI unless a freestanding bipd will come after you, not one spawned through another.
no it is ai, just not as in sp that would involved script editing so that u can spawn squads this is a way around doing that

and the only full functioning ai u can spawn from it is the flood infection form, the others would require putting ai paths in the bsp and linking them too it, trulife explained it on one of my earlier posts

answer me this, if you were say say the elite_mp biped changed to a flood infected marine or something if i killed you could i make it so flood carriers spawn from your dead body? that would be awesome

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:28 pm

r0tten wrote:
snakejknight wrote:
Tural wrote:Meh, I wouldn't consider it fully functional AI unless a freestanding bipd will come after you, not one spawned through another.
no it is ai, just not as in sp that would involved script editing so that u can spawn squads this is a way around doing that

and the only full functioning ai u can spawn from it is the flood infection form, the others would require putting ai paths in the bsp and linking them too it, trulife explained it on one of my earlier posts

answer me this, if you were say say the elite_mp biped changed to a flood infected marine or something if i killed you could i make it so flood carriers spawn from your dead body? that would be awesome

Exactly. If you swap yourself to one of those, and you die, yup, they will come out...

DoorM4n · Post by **DoorM4n** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:28 pm

How can this not be AI. All this ai is, but not as complicated as elites, marines, brutes.....Think about it guys. Those little guys attack u and follow u, where ever u go. They may not run behind corners and jump on boxes which need scripting but they do infact have some kind of inteligence allowing them to move. This is real ai. Just not as complicated.

Also I know I'm double posting but this is serious. IF this isnt real ai, then could this have been done without the trainer? The trainer enables AI in MP.

Mod Edit: Don't double post please.

-DeToX- · Post by **-DeToX-** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:37 pm

DoorM4n wrote:Also I know I'm double posting but this is serious. IF this isnt real ai, then could this have been done without the trainer? The trainer enables AI in MP.

Actually it lets the char be used. The char holds the AI's Script. And Actually DoorM4n This isn't AI because it doesnt make its own decisions. As Real AI does. And Use the Edit Button.

Still Love you though >.>

jk

DoorM4n · Post by **DoorM4n** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:43 pm

It has inteligence though. It moves and attacks you. It isnt as complicated as elites who make there own decisions. But it does move using some kind of artificial inteligence.

BTW Edit button is for squares!

jk kidd

Trulife8342 · Post by **Trulife8342** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:48 pm

No it uses desisions already made for it. case closed just drop it.

DoorM4n · Post by **DoorM4n** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:49 pm

It has inteligence though. It moves and attacks you. It isnt as complicated as elites who make there own decisions. But it does move using some kind of artificial inteligence. As far as I know, char is part of AI and the trainer enables AI in MP. This could not have been done without the trainer being enabled and enabling AI in MP. How can this not be AI....kornman, please drop your 2 cents.

BTW Edit button is for squares!

jk kidd

0mfc0 · Post by **0mfc0** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:49 pm

Meh... i still don't agree dorm4n but i would like to see a game with very smart ai. Not where the game gets hard by you having less health or the enemys strronger but a game where it is as smart as you and i. where it would do logical things like a human being. That would blow my mind.

DoorM4n · Post by **DoorM4n** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:51 pm

0mfc0 wrote:Meh... i still don't agree dorm4n but i wouyld like to see a game with very smart ai. Not where the game hard by you have less health or the enemys strronger but a game where it is as smart as you and i. where it would do logical things like a human being. That would blow my mind.

That would be more complicated AI. Unlike this mod....

SpecOp44 · Post by **SpecOp44** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:53 pm

The title says Ai in MP, yet, essentially..it's a script mod. It's good but, it's not truley A.I.

DoorM4n · Post by **DoorM4n** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:56 pm

I think, with my small amount of jike for ai, that all AI is scripted in someway.

EDIT: I'm calling you out kornman. Share your pennies!

thefreindly0ne · Post by **thefreindly0ne** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:18 pm

its somewhat AI in a way, in the video you were only being chaced when they already saw you, but the way im thinking is, flood infection isnt even a bipd, so it cant really be AI, take some time, try working on an elite, but you did work on a flood carrier, thats different because it really is a bipd, but as you saw in the video they didnt move at all so you cant really call them AI yet

snakejknight · Post by **snakejknight** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:34 pm

thefreindly0ne wrote:its somewhat AI in a way, in the video you were only being chaced when they already saw you, but the way im thinking is, flood infection isnt even a bipd, so it cant really be AI, take some time, try working on an elite, but you did work on a flood carrier, thats different because it really is a bipd, but as you saw in the video they didnt move at all so you cant really call them AI yet

the flood carrior isn't ai, its just a bipd that spawns the flood infection form...

trulife i see wat ur saying, and if u can help me with this (or take over i don't care) i would greatly apreciate it... however i got a couple questions

1 when u play with 4 people, each one will get an equal amount of flood to fallow them, i think thats a decidion they made somwhere??? (but it could have been a coincidense)

2 the weapon pallet and vihicle pallet wouldn't neccisarily have anything to do with the flood infection, they are very simple all they do is fallow u, if i'm worng about this howso

3 so how is the flood carrior any different in sp?

4 and last question u mentioned that there wouldn't be any script editing needed, but how would u be able to link the ai squads to there triggers?

another thing i'm not the first person to do this, the people that made yelo would not have released that w/out testing it.

i probably should have waited before posting anything i was just realy exited when they attacked me, but i still think its ai in a very simple form

Trulife8342 · Post by **Trulife8342** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:41 pm

ok, I shouldnt have stabbed at you with all my AI shit so im sorry dude, but this isnt AI in the sense that it actually has intelligence think of it this way, AI in halo is human ok, but the AI you made is a robot, theres somethings the robot can do that the human can thats true but the human is more effective,Its not coiencidence that the infections all spread the same amount to be honest it my be something in the script I havent looked at it because the AI im focused on isnt based off scripting, and the triggers are linked to the zones which in turn are linked to the biped that spawns in them. so yeah ill be more than happy to help just let me get some stuff out of the way with GTA SA and then ill go back to halo 2.

Edit: you need the weapon and vehicle pallet so when you spawn the AI through scnr 352 you can select their weapon of choice and if needed vehical. Look ill show you guys in a little bit of my version of coagulation that the AI adder opens so you guys would understand which reflexives need to be added.

snakejknight · Post by **snakejknight** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:49 pm

kk, but i tried to bring over the reflexives b4 the only thing is that it didn't link them so i posted somthing in the halo modding general forum and someone told me it was script and they shwed me an example, anyway i can't mod till monday i'v got a busey weekend commin up, so go agead and finsih wat u where doin... so u would say this is ai, just very very simple ai right, or did i get u wrong

(btw i'm not trying to bash u, but the reason everyone argued at first was that u flat out said this is not AI, and it came acrros like u where putting the mod down. so just try to express urself a little more clearly

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