Help with BSP Conversion

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:08 pm

Sry, I am a total noob at bsp stuff, so I will be straight forward. How would you go about taking the first sbsp of the Outskirts level and make it into a multiplayer map? If so, how would I extract it? And yes, I have checked the tuts on this website and I still don't understand it...
Any help would be superbly appreciated, or a link to another post may be helpful to.

xXxCocoFangxXx · Post by **xXxCocoFangxXx** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:37 pm

Defintely use Entity to do it with.

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:49 pm

Yeah, I done that, and I am viewing the SBSP, I just dont know where to go from there, the rest of the tuts are out of date, because they were written before entity was released.

WaywornMmmmm · Post by **WaywornMmmmm** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:52 pm

Wait. Can entity now do bsp convertions with bsp larger then the original?

srchrisknight · Post by **srchrisknight** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:56 pm

no it can't

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:57 pm

Not Sure. I have seen really large maps on smaller mp maps before so who knows, all Im really asking is how you do it with entity!

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 4:59 pm

Okay, I have gotten my bsp from Outskirts (the first sbsp) into Gemini, and moved all the spawn points so that it would be inside the map. I signed it and FTP'd. Something happened though, when I tried to start it up, it said, Failed to Load Map, so I tried to put the bsp into Containment and do the same thing. It again said I failed to load it. Can some one help me out?

WaywornMmmmm · Post by **WaywornMmmmm** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:02 pm

Well it could be a freezing spot, or you didn't resign. Also, it didn't work on containment because containment's bsp is too small.

srchrisknight · Post by **srchrisknight** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:03 pm

can't do it entity cannot inject larger bsp's

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:03 pm

I definety signed it, what do you mean "freezing spot," I am unfamiliar with this term.
If so, than how can someone get the mombasa bridge, it has more meta than this and I have used it before (the mombasa map).

Twinbird24 · Post by **Twinbird24** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:23 pm

I'll post u a tut here with pics,but i cant right now, i'll do it tomorrow. I'll send you a list a bsp conversions you can do and a tut to go with it. You can only do certain bsp conversiojns with certain singple player and multiplayer maps. Also, make sure to sighn it with CMR.

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:27 pm

What is CMR, so you say it is not possible(':?')
Confused

[users]MrBalll · Post by **[users]MrBalll** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:30 pm

CMR is a map resigner used by tdata modders, which is a bad thing. Just add halo 2 to your HDD and add maps to your mainmenu. Also yes if the bsp is bigger than the map your converting it will not work.

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 5:32 pm

If it is only 4mb larger than the mombasa bridge, and the bridge has more meta than gemini, than how do they get it to work?

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:26 pm

If the bsp is not possible, then can I just take a whole single player map and switch it with an mp map, and then duplicate the spawn points. I really need a map of Outskirts for movie-making purposes.

jackosmack · Post by **jackosmack** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:01 am

no..if one bsp is too big from the map then how can you expect the whole sp map to work?

Kamatzu · Post by **Kamatzu** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:11 am

Save Outskirts sbsp tag with nothing checked, then save Gemini's sbsp with nothing checked. If Outskrts.sbsp is larger than Gemini.sbsp, it's not going to work.

Twinbird24 · Post by **Twinbird24** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:25 pm

You can only to bsp conversion with these multiplayer maps:

---Gemini

---Waterworks

---Terminal (Triplicate)

You can only do bsp conversions with these single player bsps:

---old mombasa\earchcity_3b (mombasa bridge-from 03b_newmombasa.map)

---deltatowers\bsp_02_transition (sea level-from 05b_deltatowers.map)

---floodzone\sen_hq_bsp_5 (-from 06b_floodzone.map)

---highcharity\gravemind (-from 07a_highcharity.map)

---forerunnership_10 (-from 07b_forerunnership.map)

---forerunnership_9 (-from 07b_forerunnership.map)

---forerunnership_9_cinamatic (-from 07b_forerunnership.map)

---deltacontrolroom_bsp3 (control room-from 08b_deltacontrol.map)

I think that's it. I just have one question for you, can you make a bsp conversion so it drags all the mach (and possible scenary and stuff) from the SP map over to the MP map. I'm going to make a post about that.

Edit: Also, when saving a bsp, make sure you have parsed and recrusive checked, then click the

butting then find your .info file:

The Paradox · Post by **The Paradox** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:26 pm

How can you tell if the BSP is larger? I did the thing you told me ^^^^
For some reason it gave me the sbsp in megabytes, not sure why.
If did look at it correctly, Gemini is one mb larger than the outskirts map I want.

Twinbird24 · Post by **Twinbird24** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:29 pm

I don't know, but they should work, i'm not the one who made them up.

Edit: Just a thought, but maby you can up the maps size by adding a bunch a chunks to it then maby you would be able to do all sorts of bsp conversions.