SERENITY VS SPPF

Hawaiian Modder · Post by **Hawaiian Modder** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:20 pm

I bet the admins know who low8 is.
Unless Aequitas (Or not) used a different IP to make low8, then posted it.
Its a mystery.

Iron_Forge · Post by **Iron_Forge** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:14 pm

Maybe I'm biased here...But I don't think the sig was bashing SPPF...Just spreading awareness that people shouldn't be using it anymore...Just like no one uses sizedppf anymore...They served a purpose when they came out, and now they're obsolete...

Serenity will handle pretty much any map these days...I finally found the time tonight to trace down the bug keeping maps that are crammed to the brim with stuff from not working...Course all that cramming to the brim is usually the result of laziness and poorly constructed maps with lots of unused bits...

Maybe it's cause I'm not blessed with 100mbit connections, but I've never been a fan of downloading several MB of patch because it was easier for the modder (or the app they were using) to do it the way they have...I've seen some pretty awesome mods fit in the HaloMods 10MB limit with Serenity and it's LZMA compression...So if your patch is double that, it better be doubly awesome...But thats just my opinion...

And for the record, no, Aequitas isn't low8...low8 is low8...They have unique IP's, neither is a proxy...Stop with the conspiracy theories already...

Monkey Terd · Post by **Monkey Terd** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:26 pm

Awesome, thanks for taking the time to make our lives easier.

crosbiecube · Post by **crosbiecube** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:25 pm

huh, I always figured high6 was low8, their sigs looked the same and sppf came out right about the time that high6's defiance ap editor was supposed to come out and didn't. Maybe I just assumed too mich, but they're sigs had almost exactly the same style.

The Flying Dutchmen · Post by **The Flying Dutchmen** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:08 am

good thing rotten you made this thread. the anti sppf thing was getting really annoying and those sigs were ugly as hell.
but

Iron_Forge wrote:but I've never been a fan of downloading several MB of patch because it was easier for the modder (or the app they were using) to do it the way they have...I've seen some pretty awesome mods fit in the HaloMods 10MB limit with Serenity and it's LZMA compression...So if your patch is double that, it better be doubly awesome...But thats just my opinion...

compression technique your app uses, is thesame as winrar.. if i would compress a patch using lmza, and compress a SPPF with winrar they'd both have thesame size..
i still think sppf is much more easier in use and has NEVER given me an error, unlike serenity.
but w/e my opinion. still serenity is a nice app if it only wouldnt have given me so much trouble.

Iron_Forge · Post by **Iron_Forge** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:38 am

Actually, WinRAR uses RAR...7-zip uses LZMA...LZMA is slower, but tends to compress better...I figure having the creator spend an extra few minutes to save dozens of downloaders a few minutes is the better option...Not to mention having it self contained also makes it one less step in patching...

Also, compressions aside, Serenity creates patches differently than SPPF...In most maps, an uncompressed Serenity is still considerably smaller than an uncompressed SPPF...Since around v3.xx I changed Serenity to work on the byte level rather than the dword level (required for non-compliant patches), and there is the rare case where the SPPF will be smaller after compression than the Serenity...In all of those cases however, the maps are very non-compliant...Make what you will of that...

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:27 am

With the release of the super awesome serenity repository (which if it were up to me would have a link to it on front page or at least have a news post about it) I don't find the "dont use sppf" sig bad as a concept, however I just dislike seeing that signature image in everyone's freakin' post which makes my head spin as I dont know who's posting.
To iron_forge: I'm aware of the fact that sigs aren't supposed to be for large images telling people who they are, but its how I find it easy to identify now

Also, I thought Iron_Forge should have gotten his extra emblem for SOTW by now

S3anyBoy1 · Post by **S3anyBoy1** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:47 pm

maybe low8 is an elite

well um what is sotw?
and i prefer sppf i never get errors and we shold have like a sppf repository(just an idea) and ummmm
Iron_Forge rocks

Kirk · Post by **Kirk** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:24 am

Don't bump with pointless posts.

*locked*