Water In BeaverCreek In Gemini

Zigen · Post by **Zigen** » Mon May 15, 2006 4:46 pm

dude someone make a water level out of elongation then...including terminal itd be like an underground water lvl.

dreidz · Post by **dreidz** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:20 pm

what programm you use for raise the water. And how???

thank you

TunesRus90 · Post by **TunesRus90** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:24 pm

dreidz wrote:what programm you use for raise the water. And how???

thank you

There is no program yet that works 100% of the time, for now its best to do it in hex, however once the new Entity comes out it will be able to do it.

dreidz · Post by **dreidz** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:29 pm

oh ok... I can raise the water with tag in Entity??? Or im obligated to change hex

TunesRus90 · Post by **TunesRus90** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:34 pm

dreidz wrote:oh ok... I can raise the water with tag in Entity??? Or im obligated to change hex

TunesRus90 wrote:however once the new Entity comes out it will be able to do it.

In other words, no you cannot do it with the current Entity. There is a plugin in This Topic but i am not sure whether any current modding applications (that read xml plugins) can handle editing sbsp tags using reflexives (as in they are programmed to use the SBSP magic). You can try with ADI or DotHalo though i don't know whether it will work. If not, just use the offsets in the plugin to change the level through a hex editor.

dreidz · Post by **dreidz** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:35 pm

thank you... And how I do with hex

x088x · Post by **x088x** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:53 pm

dreidz wrote:thank you... And how I do with hex

Lol, you may just want to wait until the next Entity comes out.

TunesRus90 · Post by **TunesRus90** » Mon May 15, 2006 5:54 pm

okay heres a quick tutorial,
1.) Get the sbsp offset and magic by opening up the scnr tag in insolence and clicking the blue 'Structure SBSP' text. Then copy down the offset and magic.
2.) Open the map in a hex editor and go to the SBSP offset (make sure to select Dec not Hex)
3.) From the start of the sbsp tag go 0x224 into the tag (make sure hex not dec is selected this time)
4) It should read 0100 000 XXXX XXXX (copy down the part where I put the X's)
5.) Okay open up a hex calculator and convert the sbsp magic into hexadecimal. Then paste in the the part I filled in with X's above, and subtract the sbsp magic from that. Copy down the hexadecimal number it gives you.
6.) Go back into the hex editor, and from the beginning of the map go to what the calculator just gave you (make sure hex and 'from beginning of file' are selected)
7.) From that offset go 0x84 more (make sure hex and 'from current position' are selected)
8.) If you are using Hex Workshop, just double click the the number after 'Float:' in the bottom right, enter the desired Z coordinate of the water, and hit enter.

dreidz · Post by **dreidz** » Mon May 15, 2006 8:10 pm

wow... Thank you. I try now... ANd I wait the until for entity

predator117 · Post by **predator117** » Mon May 15, 2006 9:10 pm

i think a more appropriate title for this would be "water in zanzibar in beaver creek in gemini" that will really confuse them eh?

Deerhake44 · Post by **Deerhake44** » Tue May 16, 2006 4:55 pm

TunesRus90 wrote:okay heres a quick tutorial,
1.) Get the sbsp offset and magic by opening up the scnr tag in insolence and clicking the blue 'Structure SBSP' text. Then copy down the offset and magic.
2.) Open the map in a hex editor and go to the SBSP offset (make sure to select Dec not Hex)
3.) From the start of the sbsp tag go 0x224 into the tag (make sure hex not dec is selected this time)
4) It should read 0100 000 XXXX XXXX (copy down the part where I put the X's)
5.) Okay open up a hex calculator and convert the sbsp magic into hexadecimal. Then paste in the the part I filled in with X's above, and subtract the sbsp magic from that. Copy down the hexadecimal number it gives you.
6.) Go back into the hex editor, and from the beginning of the map go to what the calculator just gave you (make sure hex and 'from beginning of file' are selected)
7.) From that offset go 0x84 more (make sure hex and 'from current position' are selected)
8.) If you are using Hex Workshop, just double click the the number after 'Float:' in the bottom right, enter the desired Z coordinate of the water, and hit enter.

hmm, nice tut.. but when I tried to do step number six... I guess it couldn't find it... :S

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Structure BSP Offset      25905152
Primary Magic Meta Offset 2148220928 =(hex)> 800B4000

XXXX XXXX => F0B31E80

  F0B31E80
- 800B4000
----------
  70A7DE80

were all my values... and it could not find 70A7DE80 ( and yes, "(make sure hex and 'from beginning of file' are selected) " < did that)

(acctualy I tried re-doing this 4 times, everytime same results :S

please help, and thanks again

-Deerhake44

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:20 pm

Here Deerhake44 i made this app to help you out

All you have to do is open your map and the app will grab the sbsp magic then just enter the "0100 000 XXXX XXXX" like TunesRus90 told you to do and paste it in to the reflex box and click calculate and it will give you the offset in the bsp that the reflex you entered points to

Now just take the sbsp offset + the offset my app gives + 0x84 and you should be at the float

Heres the app + the source.. hope this helps out

BKbeaner · Post by **BKbeaner** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:54 am

wow, someone teach me smart language cuz after trying to read all those tuts I didn't understand anything

Deerhake44 · Post by **Deerhake44** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:13 pm

shade45 wrote:ownage app details here

O.M.G. I love you

!!!

-Deerhake44

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Wed May 17, 2006 2:14 pm

Deerhake44 wrote:
shade45 wrote:ownage app details here
O.M.G. I love you !!!

-Deerhake44

I take that as it worked?

Deerhake44 · Post by **Deerhake44** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:34 pm

shade45 wrote:
Deerhake44 wrote:
shade45 wrote:ownage app details here
O.M.G. I love you !!!

-Deerhake44
I take that as it worked?

worked beautifuly, now I'm working on flodding coag :S..

thanks again (both of you)

oh..
I'm so sorry pokecancer, for spamming up your topic

<3

-Deerhake44

also if anyone wants a step by step tut follow this (I take no credit all I did was fuse TunesRus90 + shade45's exelent help)

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1. open map in insolence and find Structure BSP Offset value. convert to hex.
2. open map in hex editor goto SBSP value + 0x224 (hex mode)
3. value should be 0100 0000 XXXX XXXX
4. open map in bsp calc, for reflex put the XXXXXXXX, hit calculate
5. open map in hex editor goto (sbsp offset + calc'ed value + 0x84) (hex)
6. in hex workshop look for Float (at the bottom) change the -3 to 2 or w\e

O,o that should work

casuela · Post by **casuela** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:54 pm

Super Sexy!

-cas

OwnZ joO · Post by **OwnZ joO** » Wed May 17, 2006 4:16 pm

Somebody should make a boat vehicle in a flooded level...

killingforfun · Post by **killingforfun** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:03 pm

No credit to the person who originally found water level (me)... >.>

w.e

awesome job injecting.. and ya.. like tunes said.. no current program can correctly do all the steps needed to edit the water level.

Trigger_six · Post by **Trigger_six** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:11 pm

killingforfun wrote:No credit to the person who originally found water level (me)... >.>

w.e

awesome job injecting.. and ya.. like tunes said.. no current program can correctly do all the steps needed to edit the water level.

I love you <3