G@y/Lesbian Marriage

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Should there be G@y/lesbian marriage?

yes
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no
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Warbandit mk 3 wrote:
rossmum wrote: Now that's over with, I find your view that they are "polluting the country" with their "illness" extremely disturbing. I mean, to begin with I don't see them doing any harm. I don't see other people "catching" homosexuality. They aren't **** hurting anyone,
Acutally they are, they hurt our laws, and they hurt the kids sexuality.
May I ask how? I told you, don't speak unless you can back it up with evidence, I know kids who are straight as you can get and have 2 gay dads, and I know kids who are gay and who grew up in a normal, loving house that are the flamingest people I will ever see. And please do be kind and tell me how they "hurt our laws"?
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thats so true you have the freedom of reigion not from religion gay marriage is wrong
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your name suits you.
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I have some very strong opinions on this matter which i shall probably not go into great detail on, unless i just get riled up and spend the next 4 hours typing. Homosexuality of any kind is wrong, why? Because if it were right it would WORK and there would not be two sexes, only one hermaphroditic gender. However that is not how we evolved/were-created (another long story for my views on that one, suffice to say i believe both). we are a species of two genders, homosexuality is something that is caused by some sort of outside influence, it is not natural, it is wrong, and the act of sticking your reproductive organ into the solid-waste exctement orifice is absolutely revolting, not counting all the problems this can cause for both men involved (bacerial infections in the urinary tract, damage to the rectum and large intestines, damage to the colon, severe streching of the anal sphincter resulting over time in a need for adult diapers, not to mention it's gotta be horrificaly painful)

Now people might say "oh but g@ys are people too and if they want to be g@y let them because they have free will too ya know" well thats a crock of sh|t. If some guy wanted to marry his sheep how many of you would support him in that decision? no-one. why? because it's un-natural, if men were meant to scr3w sheep we'd have teh proper equipment and teh act would produce something half-man half-sheep. If men were meant to do men we'd all be hermaphrodites.

and please don't feed me that "there have been studies doe that show people are born like that" because every study that started out showing those results did a complete 180 and went the other way before it was over, however it is not popular to publish those results because if the papers did publish them then CNN couldn't call people who don't like g@ys a bunch of intolerant b@stards

so please dont try to force acceptance of gys down my throat because i can defeat all your arguments with Logic, reason, and a C in biology, and if you don't like that i'll pull out my Bible and quote some genesis and exodus at you.
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Edwin wrote:homosexuality is something that is caused by some sort of outside influence, it is not natural, it is wrong, and the act of sticking your reproductive organ into the solid-waste exctement orifice is absolutely revolting, not counting all the problems this can cause for both men involved (bacerial infections in the urinary tract, damage to the rectum and large intestines, damage to the colon, severe streching of the anal sphincter resulting over time in a need for adult diapers, not to mention it's gotta be horrificaly painful)
OK, Now that is just a Steroe-type,

that is not always true just becuase there g@y and the have compassion for one another dosnet mean there gonna do what Mister Edwin said.U dont get married so u Can do um in the butt every night.. they do it cuase they have feelings for one another. and they want some one they can share there most of there lifes with, some one they can talk to without being laughed at and someone who actually understand them. Just cuase ur G@y dosent mean the only reason the got married for isw so the Can have anal S3x everynight.


Oh... and Edwin.. (and to everyone else who dose think g@ys are wrong)

Technically,

You are the type Of Dumbsh*ts who have to stick ur nose where they dont belong what do u care if there having anal sex its not ur choice its theres, and saying other wise makes u a Communist. We live in a Democratic Society... that means u Can get Ur own Jobs... U can Decide who u want to spend the rest of ur life with, and u sure as hell can decide to have Anal S3x everynight if they see it fit.

Just cuase u find it disturbing and unatural dosnt mean u have to whine about it... and why do u care so much anyways... Are G2ys just running into ur houes Banging each other in the Butt's? i dont think so.... so pretty much... ur invading here privacy and making false statements about them cuase u dont know what they do how they live and how the feel towards the same sex.

so for the final time.....


DONT STICK UR NOSE WHERE IT DONT BELONG. YOU DONT LIKE G@YS FINE... BUT DONT WHINE ABOUT IT.
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I'm going to say this once:

When South Africa makes social advance more quickly than the United States, it's a disgrace. South Africa has legalized gay marriage quite a while ago.
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rossmum wrote:Agreed, I'm a Christian but I don't let it take over my life. It's just nice to think there is a God out there, and to follow some of the principles.
Good, that's the problem with most religous people, it controls them.


rossmum wrote: Warbandit, do us all a favour and **** THINK about things. Seriously, your views are so incredibly warped that sometimes I really feel like finding out where you live, just so I can come slap you across the face for posting such utter CRAP. Use that thing called a brain and stop trying to be cool by saying everything is a conspiracy by Liberals, the UN or gays.
Actually, my thoughts are off politics most of the time and I don't care what you think, I'm not trying to be cool, and for your information, where I live is none of your **** buissness El Spammo Loco.
rossmum wrote: Now that's over with, I find your view that they are "polluting the country" with their "illness" extremely disturbing. I mean, to begin with I don't see them doing any harm. I don't see other people "catching" homosexuality. They aren't **** hurting anyone,
Acutally they are, they hurt our laws, and they hurt the kids sexuality.
rossmum wrote: so quit with the "doing weird things to straight people" bullshit. WHAT. THE ****. ARE YOU SMOKING. Why would they interfere with us, they couldn't really care less. What, you think that all the **** people are going to overthrow the **** government and dominate the world? Actually, I wouldn't put that past you, you'd believe anything if it sounds ridiculous enough. Besides that, you're sounding more and more like some weird skinhead/neo-Nazi dude, with your irrational hate of anything different to you. Quit with the moronic posts, PLEASE.
I'm not smoking anything, I'm the anti smoker, I hate neo-Nazis, and my posts are not moronic. Sounds like you SIR, need some stress therapy. I find them disturbing and they think they have the right to mess up my country's laws. Now stop with your Anti-American bullshit. :evil:
First of all. You are likely to be considered more of a spammer than me, so I don't see how one line off topic makes me a spamming machine.

Second. You sound like you have NO morals whatsoever, that'll do me. Specifics like what kind of immoral person you are don't matter, you just are.

Third, I don't have a problem with America, I have a problem with people like YOU who give it a bad name.

[EDIT] I just saw the poll and flicked back through the pages of this topic. I'm appalled at the number of homophobes and extremists on this site, who seem totally intolerant of anything different to them. Let me set a few things straight.

[randomsouthernaccent]I'm only going to say this once, so y'all better fucking LISTEN, y'hear? [/randomsouthernaccent]

There is NO FUCKING WAY gays are hurting the country, the economy, or kids. Their preferences have no impact on kids, because you're born with your sexual orientation and can't just change it. If the kids are straight, they'll stay straight. If they're gay, they'll stay gay. Same as with a straight couple's family. They don't "pollute the country", extremists (in ANY religion, INCLUDING Christianity) and homophobes do. You're the ones who should be packed off somewhere else, you give your country a bad name. If you have a problem with homosexuals, TOUGH SHIT. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE JUST TO PLEASE A COUPLE OF MESSED UP KIDS WHO WOULDN'T KNOW A MORAL IF IT HIT THEM IN THE FACE. You don't know everything there is to know, your facts are either totally wrong or absent altogether, and I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of you are only 12-14, which explains the abhorrent lack of maturity and acceptance of anything different. You don't like it? Lock yourself inside your house and DON'T COME OUT. The world will be a better place without you.

Just because you think something is wrong, it doesn't mean it is, or that everyone else has to think that. If you can't keep your revolting views to yourself, I think I speak for the vast majority of mature, responsible, tolerant members here when I say, YOU CAN LEAVE. If you want to stay here, find some maturity, lose the "what-I-say-is-always-right" attitudes that shame everyone associated with you, and learn some fucking tolerance.
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Again, well said. On another note, I'm leavig this horribly repetitive battle, because I have better things to do with my time than argue with insolent brats. Good day.
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Edwin wrote:If some guy wanted to marry his sheep how many of you would support him in that decision? no-one. why? because it's un-natural, if men were meant to scr3w sheep we'd have teh proper equipment and teh act would produce something half-man half-sheep. If men were meant to do men we'd all be hermaphrodites.
That's completely different and here's why. A man marrying a man is a mutual consent partnership. A man cannot marry a sheep because a sheep does not have the cognitive ability to consent to marriage, not because 'it wouldn't work.' By your logic, women who cannot give birth (because of ovarian cancer or any number of other reasons) should not be able to get married, because they cannot procreate.
Edwin wrote:and please don't feed me that "there have been studies doe that show people are born like that" because every study that started out showing those results did a complete 180 and went the other way before it was over, however it is not popular to publish those results because if the papers did publish them then CNN couldn't call people who don't like g@ys a bunch of intolerant b@stards
Who needs studies? I know many gay people, and all of them did not make the desicion, they are just gay. What, do you think they're lying? Like there's some sort of conspiracy going on?
Edwin wrote:so please dont try to force acceptance of gys down my throat because i can defeat all your arguments with Logic, reason, and a C in biology, and if you don't like that i'll pull out my Bible and quote some genesis and exodus at you.
I promise not to force acceptance of gays down your throat, if you promise not to shove your Bible down mine. No one is asking you to like, apreciate, or even respect these people, just that you don't try to force your opinions onto them. If they want to get married, then you shouldn't be able to stop them, it's none of your damn buisness.
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This topic is getting pretty flamey.

But I agree with what RaVN said.

Just because they are the same gender, why does that not give them the right to show compassion?

Also, why is the word g-a-y censored?
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anyways i have taken a new opinion on this i just realized that there probably shouldn't be ne such thing as marriage its man made marriage itself wasn't ment to be and i think that even if we have marriage it should definitely not be bound by laws marriage is sort of a manifestation of love and how many people here think love should be tied and chained be laws?
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The_Hushed_Casket wrote: it's none of your damn buisness.

you're completely right, it's no-ones business but their own, but they seem to insist on forcing it down everyone elses throats, if they really wanna get married, fine, let 'em, but i don't wont it to be of fucking CNN every day! I don't want to hear about, know about it, or even know of the possibility of it, why? BECAUSE IT IS, ON EVERY LEVEL, WRONG!

and in response to whoever said "by logic sterile women shouldn't marry" that's an invalid counter-argument because in that case the fault lies with the body of the woman, not the act itself.

and I really don't give a rat's ass about what certain (i am going to say "overly-liberal" here jsut beecause i cant think of a better temr) say that makes me, they're just a bunch of wishy-washy Kerry-ites who will say whatever they can to make themselves look better than other people.

Doctor wrote:Just because they are the same gender, why does that not give them the right to show compassion?
there is nothing wrong with compassion, or even love as brothers may love each other, it's when it moves into the realm of the sexual that it becomes wrong. I had a friend once for several years who i was closer to than it i ever could be close to even a brother (I.E. lack of sibling rivalry), does that mean i was gay? no, because i was never attracted sexually to him. The line of Gay is drawn at sexual attraction, not close friendship or compassion. And i believe i have already stated my opinions on same-sex "intercourse" (if one wishes to completely shatter the definition of the word)

Now one may ask "well, in that case, why should they not get married?" Because marriage goes deeper than that, for one thing there's a lttle thing known as consumation that takes place on the wedding night, and others that are just too complex to be written out with mere text, and i'm not quite that good with metaphores.
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Edwin wrote:and in response to whoever said "by logic sterile women shouldn't marry" that's an invalid counter-argument because in that case the fault lies with the body of the woman, not the act itself.
And the fault of being gay (I use the word 'fault' here loosely because 'fault' implies something is wrong) does not lie with the individual. No matter which way you try to spin it, I know, from good friends and relatives, that being gay is not a desiscion. And what of the consent? As I mentioned before, your 'sheep' argument is invalid because it makes the assumption that marrying is based on how much it 'works,' when it fact it is based on the consent of the parties invovled.
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rossmum wrote:
First of all. You are likely to be considered more of a spammer than me, so I don't see how one line off topic makes me a spamming machine.
Your not a spamming machine.
rossmum wrote: Second. You sound like you have NO morals whatsoever, that'll do me. Specifics like what kind of immoral person you are don't matter, you just are.
I have morals, and the **** violate them.
rossmum wrote: Third, I don't have a problem with America, I have a problem with people like YOU who give it a bad name.
Marriage should take place between a man and a woman. You don't need marriage to make a statement that you want to spend your life with someone.

rossmum wrote: I just saw the poll and flicked back through the pages of this topic. I'm appalled at the number of homophobes and extremists on this site, who seem totally intolerant of anything different to them. Let me set a few things straight.

[randomsouthernaccent]I'm only going to say this once, so y'all better **** LISTEN, y'hear? [/randomsouthernaccent]

There is NO **** WAY gays are hurting the country, the economy, or kids. Their preferences have no impact on kids, because you're born with your sexual orientation and can't just change it. If the kids are straight, they'll stay straight.
That depends, hormone imbalence can change that.
rossmum wrote: If they're ****, they'll stay ****. Same as with a straight couple's family. They don't "pollute the country", extremists (in ANY religion, INCLUDING Christianity) and homophobes do. You're the ones who should be packed off somewhere else, you give your country a bad name. If you have a problem with homosexuals, TOUGH ****. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE JUST TO PLEASE A COUPLE OF MESSED UP KIDS WHO WOULDN'T KNOW A MORAL IF IT HIT THEM IN THE FACE.
Why do you side with these people? Your not one of them, so why do you like them?

rossmum wrote: You don't know everything there is to know,
That portion of your sentence I agree with.
rossmum wrote: and I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of you are only 12-14, which explains the abhorrent lack of maturity and acceptance of anything different. You don't like it? Lock yourself inside your house and DON'T COME OUT. The world will be a better place without you.
Homophobes aren't just 12-14, and don't think just because I dislike them that you think I'm 12-14, you think I'm Hitler because I dislike *** marriage.
rossmum wrote: Just because you think something is wrong, it doesn't mean it is, or that everyone else has to think that.
Hey buddy, everyone should have their own beliefs. I'm not some Jew killing skin-head.
rossmum wrote: If you can't keep your revolting views to yourself, I think I speak for the vast majority of mature, responsible, tolerant members here when I say, YOU CAN LEAVE. If you want to stay here, find some maturity, lose the "what-I-say-is-always-right" attitudes that shame everyone associated with you, and learn some **** tolerance.
Wow, I need to exit this topic. Serousily, have you no sense of right and wrong?
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Warbandit mk 3 wrote:
rossmum wrote:
First of all. You are likely to be considered more of a spammer than me, so I don't see how one line off topic makes me a spamming machine.
Your not a spamming machine.
Well that's sure as hell what it looked like you meant.
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rossmum wrote: Second. You sound like you have NO morals whatsoever, that'll do me. Specifics like what kind of immoral person you are don't matter, you just are.
I have morals, and the **** violate them.
I wouldn't call them morals. More like opinions. The idea of morals is that they are moral, and labelling people as sick/wrong/"polluting the country" is NOT moral.
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rossmum wrote: Third, I don't have a problem with America, I have a problem with people like YOU who give it a bad name.
Marriage should take place between a man and a woman. You don't need marriage to make a statement that you want to spend your life with someone.
No, you don't. But it's a rights issue there, and they deserve that right just as much as ordinary couples do. There is no reason they don't deserve it.
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rossmum wrote: I just saw the poll and flicked back through the pages of this topic. I'm appalled at the number of homophobes and extremists on this site, who seem totally intolerant of anything different to them. Let me set a few things straight.

[randomsouthernaccent]I'm only going to say this once, so y'all better **** LISTEN, y'hear? [/randomsouthernaccent]

There is NO **** WAY gays are hurting the country, the economy, or kids. Their preferences have no impact on kids, because you're born with your sexual orientation and can't just change it. If the kids are straight, they'll stay straight.
That depends, hormone imbalence can change that.
rossmum wrote: If they're ****, they'll stay ****. Same as with a straight couple's family. They don't "pollute the country", extremists (in ANY religion, INCLUDING Christianity) and homophobes do. You're the ones who should be packed off somewhere else, you give your country a bad name. If you have a problem with homosexuals, TOUGH ****. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CHANGE JUST TO PLEASE A COUPLE OF MESSED UP KIDS WHO WOULDN'T KNOW A MORAL IF IT HIT THEM IN THE FACE.
Why do you side with these people? Your not one of them, so why do you like them?
Because I think they deserve the same rights as everyone else. They can't help their preference, and even if they could it's no basis to take their rights away and blame them for all the country's problems. I also find it rather disgusting that people can be so prejudiced against a group just because of what they hear or see, or what their family believes. Given your views, I very seriously doubt you know many gay people, because, you know... they are actually NORMAL people, only they're attracted to the same sex. That doesn't make them some sort of pestilence that needs to be purged, and in any case they aren't interfering with anyone else so in the end WHY DOES ANYONE GIVE A FUCK?
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rossmum wrote: You don't know everything there is to know,
That portion of your sentence I agree with.
Good.
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rossmum wrote: and I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of you are only 12-14, which explains the abhorrent lack of maturity and acceptance of anything different. You don't like it? Lock yourself inside your house and DON'T COME OUT. The world will be a better place without you.
Homophobes aren't just 12-14, and don't think just because I dislike them that you think I'm 12-14, you think I'm Hitler because I dislike *** marriage.
Did I directly compare you to Hitler? No. Don't try twisting my words. And I never said "all homophobes are 12-14", I made the statement that a lot of the people here SEEM the age due to their lack of maturity. I think you're that age due to your excessively warped opinions based on distorted "facts", and then the way you seem to link everything back to a conspiracy to destroy the country. If you acted more mature, I wouldn't have thought that.
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rossmum wrote: Just because you think something is wrong, it doesn't mean it is, or that everyone else has to think that.
Hey buddy, everyone should have their own beliefs. I'm not some Jew killing skin-head.

Yes, you're right. But the point is, it's YOUR belief. Which means, you don't go around stating it as though it's law just because you said it. Aside from that, you might not be a skinhead, but you sure as hell sound like one from your posts in the gun ban topic and in here.
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rossmum wrote: If you can't keep your revolting views to yourself, I think I speak for the vast majority of mature, responsible, tolerant members here when I say, YOU CAN LEAVE. If you want to stay here, find some maturity, lose the "what-I-say-is-always-right" attitudes that shame everyone associated with you, and learn some **** tolerance.
Wow, I need to exit this topic. Serousily, have you no sense of right and wrong?
Actually, I DO have a perfectly good sense of right and wrong. Being attracted to the same sex isn't wrong, it's a natural occurrence that some people just have to live with. Believing this makes it right to treat them like shit IS wrong.
Edwin wrote:I don't want to hear about, know about it, or even know of the possibility of it, why? BECAUSE IT IS, ON EVERY LEVEL, WRONG!
Excuse me, Mr. I-Think-I-Know-Everything-About-What's-Right-and-Wrong, but I don't see how it is. It's a natural occurrence, all forms of living animals can show homosexuality, and always have. SO don't anybody fucking say it's unnatural, because it FUCKING WELL IS NOT. Aside from that, it's not "on every level wrong". It's not a crime. It's not harming anybody else. It's not morally wrong for two people to love each other, regardless of their genders. If you can't handle seeing gay weddings on the news, then turn the fucking TV off. Sheesh.
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Agreed.
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Warbandit mk 3 wrote:Why do you side with these people? Your not one of them, so why do you like them?
That is such a disgusting attitude. You sicken me.
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Stay out of people's business and they will stay out of yours, do you really think that if they are allowed to get married that they are going to come to your house and brainwash you into this, what you call "depravity" you sir are a fascist pig, and please stop with your "I know what is right and wrong" shit, no one knows for sure, no one. Stop being arrogant.
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