[tut] A Little More Detailed Explanation on SP-MP

Limpmybizket911 · Post by **Limpmybizket911** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:00 am

It makes a completly new MP map.

XxSilencedDeathxX · Post by **XxSilencedDeathxX** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:15 am

SerpentKnights wrote:so can anybody tell me what's the whole point of bsp conversion? like what does it allow u to do? lol, i = dumb... :p

You take a part of an SP level and you make it playable on a MP map so you can play it with your friends. Its like a new map.

SerpentKnights · Post by **SerpentKnights** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:39 am

i c, kinda like the "the lost ship aka greenhouse" mod or mm ironman's mod of "kingdom of heaven"

Zigen · Post by **Zigen** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:45 am

SerpentKnights wrote:i c, kinda like the "the lost ship aka greenhouse" mod or mm ironman's mod of "kingdom of heaven"

no those are custom made. They placed each and every one of those machs by themselves. BSP conversion is getting a map from sp....how can you not understand this>!! Play campaign..

JesseCuster · Post by **JesseCuster** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:47 am

i c, kinda like the "the lost ship aka greenhouse" mod or mm ironman's mod of "kingdom of heaven"

the two u counted....are no BSP conversions

both of them were mach mods....like metroid tunnel ...

a lot of people think that it would be bsp, but its not^^

this is bsp conversion

http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=49962

http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=50673

http://files.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=50113

and there will be coming a lot more soon^^

JC

EDIT:::: Infection was to fast for me

XxSilencedDeathxX · Post by **XxSilencedDeathxX** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:48 am

Infection4389 wrote:
SerpentKnights wrote:i c, kinda like the "the lost ship aka greenhouse" mod or mm ironman's mod of "kingdom of heaven"
no those are custom made. They placed each and every one of those machs by themselves. BSP conversion is getting a map from sp....how can you not understand this>!! Play campaign..

Actually its kind of the same for this. Its just not a big mach as the map, its a new bsp. And you also have to replace weapons and stuff just like you would on a mach conversion.

MasterChief2829 · Post by **MasterChief2829** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:50 am

And There's Catacomb and Induction which are also BSP Conversions.

Zigen · Post by **Zigen** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:50 am

machs and bsp are completely different.

XxSilencedDeathxX · Post by **XxSilencedDeathxX** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:59 am

Infection4389 wrote:machs and bsp are completely different.

I know. That's what I explained (or tried to explain

).

Mach's are just something you place on a map and null the bsp.

Bsp conversions make the bsp completely different. Unlike mach conversions, they are harder, and take more time.

But for both, you need to place weapons and collections and spawns and everything.

t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 10:55 am

xxSilencedDeathxx The BSP i was doing was the shared bsp like shades very first one.......how is the shared.map's bsp bigger than coags?

XxSilencedDeathxX · Post by **XxSilencedDeathxX** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:04 am

Ohh, you didn't mention that.

It shouldn't be though. Make sure you select your blocks in Dec, NOT Hex.

harris6191 · Post by **harris6191** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:09 am

How did you come up with that?

XxSilencedDeathxX · Post by **XxSilencedDeathxX** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 11:25 am

Come up with what?

SerpentKnights · Post by **SerpentKnights** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:16 pm

thanks, infection, jesse, and silenceddeath, i think i get what the bsp is and what's the difference between that and mach conversion :p
oh yah, thanks for that little critique, infection, but i have played campaign lol

Zigen · Post by **Zigen** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:58 pm

SerpentKnights wrote: what's the difference between that and mach conversion :p

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t_mann05 · Post by **t_mann05** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:41 pm

Ok guys i think i am close on the shared bsp to coag. I got to the last step and went to ADI both maps open fine:)......how do i get to the dependencies of the bsps? I have ADI 2.0.......can someone get me a link to ADI 1.2?

kornkidcrazy · Post by **kornkidcrazy** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:50 pm

here is ADI 1.2c. To get to the dependancies, go to the sbsp tag and click on the bsp. Now, go to the bottem right corner and click the icon farthest away, and then click dependancies.

SerpentKnights · Post by **SerpentKnights** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 8:31 pm

infection.. note there is no question mark.. so it is not a question... it is a implied sentence.... :p

Dojorkan · Post by **Dojorkan** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:19 pm

BSP. IS pretty much all the solid ground you stand on in a map.

A MACH= machine, is a piece of scenery that you can interact with or moves. (Not boxes, but things like the Gate on Containment, the bridge on Delta Halo, or beam on Headlong.) All gates, elevators, and gondolas are MACHs.

So bascially since most MACHs are big, people have made whole levels out of them.

da dude of halo2 · Post by **da dude of halo2** » Sat Apr 15, 2006 9:48 pm

XxSilencedDeathxX wrote:
SerpentKnights wrote:so can anybody tell me what's the whole point of bsp conversion? like what does it allow u to do? lol, i = dumb... :p
You take a part of an SP level and you make it playable on a MP map so you can play it with your friends. Its like a new map.

I still Dont know how to do that the tutoral is way to complex still maybe a more exsplaind tutoral or video tutoral I have so many Idea's I still dont understand can anyone help me out.

I know. That's what I explained (or tried to explain ).

Mach's are just something you place on a map and null the bsp.

Bsp conversions make the bsp completely different. Unlike mach conversions, they are harder, and take more time.

But for both, you need to place weapons and collections and spawns and everything.

I dont Understand How to do this either Ive tried 4 times and faild every one. I have followed a text and vido tutoral but no go I have every tool and app so I dont know.