Immigration to the U.S.

[imgettionowned]

my priorities are straight, it's just that some asses would come along and take advantage of the system. Look how many people do it today.

[Patrickssj6]

One bad thing is that many people will have to suffer.Look at Russia under Stalin(is he called like that in english too?) commands.Many people died because of hunger and such but their...How you call that in english again?...Ahh yes...Economy increased dramaticaly.

Anyway lets stay on topic since this topic is not about democracy,ideaologies or communism in the first place.

[imgettionowned]

I just realized that myself after veiwing the polls.
Anyways, sorry, and ley's get back on topic, what was the issue again? jk

[Cuda]

The Student revolts didnt go as planned for them. By the time they got to our school, they all got Tickets and Citations for Dirupting School Activities and truancy.

[gh0570fchurch]

Perfect Society=The Goal of Communism

yes, but perfect society is impossible, and should not be attempted to be achieved.

[Cuda]

Perfect Society=The Goal of Communism

yes, but perfect society is impossible, and should not be attempted to be achieved.

a perfect society is the hidden goal to every govt. system. If it wasn't why change to another system?

[Dr.Cox]

Illegal = Maybe

But Isnt Our Contry Based On Immigration?

No.

If you mean Crossing the boarder illegally, stealing and ransacking peoples house along the way.

NO.

[Warbandit mk 3]

The Student revolts didnt go as planned for them. By the time they got to our school, they all got Tickets and Citations for Dirupting School Activities and truancy.

Also, what they are doing makes congress want to pass the enforcement law even more! Those kids are so revolting and self concience about their race... One man told me his kid was jealous because they don't nice things like we do (god I hate those kids, I want to <need a string entry here> or send them to a country worse than the parts of Mexico they detest (which means hate). Jealousy, fear, or just ungrateful, those kids are one of those. I think I'll start burning Mexican flag as retaliation. Also, I don't want to be flamed.

[gh0570fchurch]

I think I'll start burning Mexican flag as retaliation.[/color]

not a good idea

[The_Hushed_Casket]

stealing and ransacking peoples house along the way.

Oops, that was incredibly racist. Try not to make extremely offensive generalizations about Mexican immigrants.

[Cuda]

stealing and ransacking peoples house along the way.

From all the things I've heard, (and living in So-Cal myself) they dont tend to go inside peoples houses, they steal stuff from the Front or back like food. Or they stay in the transport till they get to a major city.

[The_Hushed_Casket]

Illegal = Maybe

But Isnt Our Contry Based On Immigration?

No.

If you mean Crossing the boarder illegally, stealing and ransacking peoples house along the way.

NO.

No, our country isn't based on that kind of immigration.
Our country is based on the kind of immigration where the new colonial rulers come in and rape and pillage the native populations. Instead of stealing petty materialistic goods, we prefer to steal entire continents. Now, which kind of immigration are you against again?

[Cuda]

I really dont see what we could pillage from the Indians. we had far greater technology and material goods that the indians could cough up. It wasn't like We invaded, tore up their land and slaughtered them. We Colonized, Puchased, and Manifest Destinied over land that our forefathers belived they rightfully owned. But in the current situation, You belive 11 Million Illegal Immigrants flooding our borders is justified? they call it a reunification of lost grounds in thier Extremist guides. You obviously havent seen what they did first hand and read what they wrote. They believe this is an invasion to reclaim lands. What really Ironic is, you got to also see it from there standpoint.

Ironicly they got the same problems we have. Illegal immigration to Mexico from Guatemala. They too are taking the meager jobs that even Mexicans wont even take. yet some, make it to northern Mexico, and try to sneak in here. The question I got is, why not take the free education they get on behalf of the American Taxpayer, return to Mexico(not be forced) and try to make that a better country? why migrate the entire Family and choke up the American Economy?

[Patrickssj6]

I really dont see what we could pillage from the Indians. we had far greater technology and material goods that the indians could cough up. It wasn't like We invaded, tore up their land and slaughtered them. We Colonized, Puchased, and Manifest Destinied over land that our forefathers belived they rightfully owned.

Maybe you should rethink your statement there because from my point of view ist absured.

Maybe a hint:Who is more intelligent?The one who invented the atomicbomb or the one who saw beyond that and didn't?

If you feel like you are one of the americans who think you came and you defeated the indians...well...thats so egoistic.You know the pilgrims did very bad stuff?

The Indians helped the pilgrims to survive the winter.Whats the reward?Their annihaltion.

America and general Europa don't have anything to be proud of.Nothing.

Their so called intelligence will destroy one day the world.

[Cuda]

Defeated? Absolutly not. I think they (like historical documents prove) that they colonized along the coast. I think they had pretty good relations with some tribes but the one that attacked were anihilated.

[The_Hushed_Casket]

It wasn't like We invaded, tore up their land and slaughtered them.

No, that's exactly what happened. We came and STOLE their land, there is no nice way to put it. Just because YOU think that they had 'nothing to pillage' doesn't mean they felt the same way.

And you say it was justified because we had greater technology? First of all, they had agricultural methods that produced a volume of crops that we can not even emulate today.
So, by your logic you would be perfectly fine if there was a civilization with far greater technology than ours coming in and brutally slaughtering our population?

I think they had pretty good relations with some tribes

You call small-pox blankets 'pretty good relations?' You call burning entire libraries containing their only recorded history good relations?

they call it a reunification of lost grounds in thier Extremist guides. You obviously havent seen what they did first hand and read what they wrote.

You can't simply judge everyone's view because of what extremists think. There are extremists at both ends of every spectrum but that doesn't mean you should assume that everyone is an extremist.

You belive 11 Million Illegal Immigrants flooding our borders is justified?

Absolutely.

[imgettionowned]

The Hushed Casket and Patrickssj6, after reading that I have realized how big of hippocrits you are. You oppose the Iraq war, and yet you say how early Americans muredered indians and how wrong it was. Wait, isn't that what Saddam Hussein was doing, blatantly murdering all that opposed him.


Also, Native Americans didn't have a farming system that we can't emulate today. As a matter of fact, that's the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in my life.

[The_Hushed_Casket]

The Hushed Casket and Patrickssj6, after reading that I have realized how big of hippocrits you are. You oppose the Iraq war, and yet you say how early Americans muredered indians and how wrong it was. Wait, isn't that what Saddam Hussein was doing, blatantly murdering all that opposed him.

Your making quite an assumption there. You assume that because I'm against the war in Iraq, that I'm pro-Saddam Hussein. However things aren't quite that black and white. I'm all for the elimination of dictators such as Saddam, however the methods through which we did so were completely wrong.

Also, Native Americans didn't have a farming system that we can't emulate today. As a matter of fact, that's the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in my life.

I could be wrong about that, I thought I read that in my History book though. However don't try to trivialize everything I said because I got one thing wrong, that's such as typical argument on your part. However I do know for a fact that Native Americans used rotational farming when Europeans invaded (and slaughtered) them, which was relatively advanced (relative to their other technologies).

[Cuda]

I think they had pretty good relations with some tribes

You call small-pox blankets 'pretty good relations?' You call burning entire libraries containing their only recorded history good relations?

You're obviously getting your lines blurred. The Smallpox Blankets, and the Burining of the libraries happend in the 1500's by the spaniards.... They came from the south and came north to florida. Not by the whole pilgrims in Plymouth Rock.

You belive 11 Million Illegal Immigrants flooding our borders is justified?

Absolutely.[/quote]

It's absolutly not. In the State that our country is in now, we dont need anymore. They reproduce like rabbits, My school especially Both My old and current school's have seen a 10-20% Spanish Speaking ONLY students. Seeing these great population increases is ruining the neighborhood. Since Buisnesses aren't allowed to hire these immigrants legally, they resort to the only other income that they can come by. Crime.

As of February 2006, 80% of the Latino Population in Mens Central Jail, and In Southern Californian prisons are undocumented Illegal immigrants. Yet, We are supposed to change for them? They wish to seek a new life by the wrong means, by breaking the law, WE are the bad guys? I mean, Im all ok with someone wanting a new life in a new country, but obtaining this illegally is wrong. thats why its called, "Illegal" immigration.

[The_Hushed_Casket]

I think they had pretty good relations with some tribes

You call small-pox blankets 'pretty good relations?' You call burning entire libraries containing their only recorded history good relations?

You're obviously getting your lines blurred. The Smallpox Blankets, and the Burining of the libraries happend in the 1500's by the spaniards.... They came from the south and came north to florida. Not by the whole pilgrims in Plymouth Rock.

The Spaniards weren't alone, do you think the Native American's would have said "Sure, come on in and take our land, we don't want it anyway."
Regardless of how you want to put it, we STOLE their land from them. We robbed them blind and took their homeland.