Visual Basic Questions

Doctor · Post by **Doctor** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:35 pm

I used to use QBasic, and now I have noticed this much more powerful and cooler version called Visual Basic that has been out for a long time I'm just under a rock.

Anyway, I'm not sure what I need for this program. I downloaded Visual Basic 2005 Express, and I have noticied that it is a bit different like Dev-C++ to C++. Is it okay to learn with that this freeware, or will it mess up my VB programming?

I also have Microsoft Word XP, and when I goto view>toolbars>Visual Basic, I notice a normal layout and normal Visual Basic (It looks like 6) tools. Can I program using this, and will it compile correctly? (I'm not sure if I can save files with this, havn't looked into it much)

Or should I just spend some money and buy Visual Basic. If so, how much is it (I'll probably find this on my own)?

Baah, that was a lot.

P.S. Sorry if this has already been answered, didn't mean to bother.

Thanks,
Doc

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:28 pm

Get yourself Visual Basic Express Edition 2005 Beta 2 from Microsoft.Its free and modern.If you want the whole package with C#,C+,J#,VB and ASP.NET then go buy Visual Studio 2005

Doctor · Post by **Doctor** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:31 pm

Awesome, thanks Patrick.

If I learn with VB Express, it won't mess up my VB programming, will it? Is there any books for VB Express?

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:35 pm

Yes i have one.Let me dig out.I have the 2003 version but get the 2005 edition.Its basicllay the same just some little things have changed.
This is the one i got:

this is the new one you should get(I think this is the one):

Get one of the two.Just look thorugh it and make sure its Visual Basic .NET and NOT Visual Basic 6.

Doctor · Post by **Doctor** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:46 pm

Thank you very much for helping my out, Patrick! I'll prolly be heading over to Border's tomorrow =D

You deserve an award.

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:51 pm

Doctor wrote:Thank you very much for helping my out, Patrick! I'll prolly be heading over to Border's tomorrow =D

I wanted to go there today too and buy a book about programming

You deserve an award.

Tell that BEEF

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:50 am

i bought the wrong book i bought visual basic for developers awhile back well its not my fault i was talking on the phone with my mom and she told me a list of book names and i thought it sounded good but it wasnt.

"I own visual studio 2005"

FireScythe · Post by **FireScythe** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:41 am

Patrickssj6 wrote:Get yourself Visual Basic Express Edition 2005 Beta 2 from Microsoft.Its free and modern.If you want the whole package with C#,C+,J#,VB and ASP.NET then go buy Visual Studio 2005

Until November 2006, all the express editions (not betas) are up for free download from Microsoft:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/default.aspx
I downloaded all the ISO's and put them on a DVD (with a home made autorun app.

) incase I feel like learning something else in the future.

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:49 am

i love visual studio 2005 so many more features then the express editions

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:30 pm

I still prefer 6
It may not allow you to do as much, but it is so much easier. And I can't seem to be able to convert anything to .net, so I'm going to stick to what I know.

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:59 pm

its not easier its just diffent and that might mean you have to drop what your doing and start over if you ever want to program in .net

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:02 pm

Yeah, but with .net, you need the .net framework. And if you are using a version 0.000.01 lower than it doesn't work. With VB6, it's standard stuff (except for most controls)
Plus, can you do a line using the line (x,y)-(x,y) command? That's the biggest problem I have with .NET right now, and it is the one thing that is keeping my stuff from working. Something that simple

Not to mention the fact that I'de rather stick to my Visual Studio 6 Enterprise Edition then migrate to a free version of .NET, which is only Visual Basic!

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:06 pm

i dont have a free version this is what i got visual basic 6 just that, visual studio 2003 and visual studio 2005

modder4321 · Post by **modder4321** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:58 am

FleetAdmiralBacon wrote:Yeah, but with .net, you need the .net framework. And if you are using a version 0.000.01 lower than it doesn't work. With VB6, it's standard stuff (except for most controls)
Plus, can you do a line using the line (x,y)-(x,y) command? That's the biggest problem I have with .NET right now, and it is the one thing that is keeping my stuff from working. Something that simple

Not to mention the fact that I'de rather stick to my Visual Studio 6 Enterprise Edition then migrate to a free version of .NET, which is only Visual Basic!

thats y they invented "imports VB = microsoft.visualbasic"

nsilva · Post by **nsilva** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:19 pm

I have to say VB sucks. Go learn C++ its ALOT more powerful. And use Bloodsheds DevC++ its a free IDE and has a free compiler.

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:05 am

I wouldnt say it sucks because BASIC was what ms dos ran on now isnt making it older than C++ so it doesnt suck Visual Basic is a very powerful language and by learning it you can learn c++ and c# so on with ease.

Bloodshed C++ isnt that a command line compiler.

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:43 am

You have to choose the way you want to go.I would recommend C# from what I heard.C++ is a bit "outdated" cause its complicated and you can do some of the same commands way easier with other languages.

nsilva · Post by **nsilva** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:27 pm

C++ is not outdated. C might be. And its better to learn C first.

Kurroda · Post by **Kurroda** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:50 pm

trust me vb is the way to go for beginners if you go wiht c# or so on you will tend to get confused and give up

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:57 pm

Besides C# is similar to Java.Let me get you an example of one code in different laguages.

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J#:
System.Windows.Forms.MessageBox.Show("Hello, World!");

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Vb .NET:
Messagebox.Show("Hello, World!")

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C#:
System.Console.WriteLine("Hello, World!");

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C++
using namespace std;
int main()
{
     cout << "Hello, World!";
}