Render Gallery Submission Thread (Updated 8-13) 56k warning

rossgemuend · Post by **rossgemuend** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:45 pm

yeah, i re-rigged my models recently to make all of the metal/armor parts rigid and all of the rubber/skin deformable by hand on both the elite and the mc. I'm having more trouble with the arms this time aroud, as you can see, so i'm still in the tweaking phase.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:52 pm

Guess that's what happens when you use a super detailed 4096x4096 normal map, eh Jean?

And I couldn't find anything in the reference files...mind sharing how you did the realtime viewport Veegie?

Halo 2 Rules!! · Post by **Halo 2 Rules!!** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 1:54 pm

Veegie wrote:Sorry Jean, the bump/normal mapping on the armor looked to be not only edited normals but polygonal geometry.

no need to apologize. (i take what you said as a compliment actually). and nice work ross

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 2:19 pm

Guess that's what happens when you use a super detailed 4096x4096 normal map, eh Jean?

Uhm, no. It's a little thing called supersampling.

Halo 2 Rules!! · Post by **Halo 2 Rules!!** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 5:23 pm

well, the normal map has a hand in it =P

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:18 pm

A line is a line, no matter how high resolution it is. It just comes down to image compression and super sampling.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:20 pm

Higher resolution normal maps allow for more detail.

Go take a 4096x4096 normal map and a 512x512 one. See which one will look better in the end.

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:22 pm

Yes, considering you hand paint it from begining to end. But If just scale it up....no. Now stop

rossgemuend · Post by **rossgemuend** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:45 pm

higher resolution textures do help, but supersampling can make the difference when higher resolution textures are not available. Of course supersampling almost triples my render times on average, but the settings are very adjustable.

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:09 pm

Jujitsu inspired pose.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:36 pm

His right, our left, shoulder and knee look a little weird. And the detail map on his armor makes it look...too dirty. Yes, I know it's armor, it should be dirty, blah blah. And his right, our left, leg seems to be going through part of the foot. And his left, our right, foot seems to be in a somewhat unnatural pose.

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:47 pm

His right, our left, shoulder and knee look a little weird.

Part of the rig, unfixable at such extremes.

And the detail map on his armor makes it look...too dirty

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That is the specular level map, not detail map....

Yes, I know it's armor, it should be dirty, blah blah.

Then why did you bring it up?

And his right, our left, leg seems to be going through part of the foot.

It's not.

And his left, our right, foot seems to be in a somewhat unnatural pose.

It's called Jujitsu.

trepdimeflou · Post by **trepdimeflou** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:54 pm

You seem to have excuses for everything, veegie. I agree 100% with AeonFlux's comments.

The shoulder is very easily fixed, you just do not know how to fix it.

and yes, his right calf is going through the top of the foot.

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:57 pm

Trep, would you care for a wireframe?
Oh and trep, don't lecture me on rigging. When you struggled for over a half hour and ended up blocking me because I wouldn't fix two vertice weights on a head bone of the masterchief rig given to you by Doc.

trepdimeflou · Post by **trepdimeflou** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:03 pm

i don't recall lecturing anyone on rigging, veegie. i simply stated that it was a simple error and could be easily fixed. you need to calm down.

ok, so i didnt know how to rig or fix vertices once. is that a crime? no. i didn't think so.

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:07 pm

Lecture is an almost direct synonym to inform. To which you easily meet the criteria.

ok, so i didnt know how to rig or fix vertices once. is that a crime? no. i didn't think so.

It is when you act as if you're in a position to tell someone what can and cannot be fixed as far as rigging.

trepdimeflou · Post by **trepdimeflou** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:10 pm

So I am not allowed to tell anyone how to do anything? Is that what you are trying to say? I'm not going to just let you tell me what I can and cannot say, Veegie. I KNOW for a FACT that that can be very easily fixed; I have fixed that error several times in my poses.

Veegie[Temp] · Post by **Veegie[Temp]** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:12 pm

When you're in a position too. I'd rather not have my topic filled with comments that are backed up unjustly and based off of uninformed and uneducated logic. It can escelate very easily and quickly and be set as a determining factor for future work. Which could be quite negative if not nipped at the bud.

Also, stop with the threats. They're childish and getting old fast. Thanks.

trepdimeflou · Post by **trepdimeflou** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:16 pm

There were absolutely no threats in my posts. I was not acting childish, either. I was being civil and polite, and had complete justification for everything i said.

yayap members, expect something good from me soon

trepdimeflou · Post by **trepdimeflou** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 11:18 pm

That is a threat, if you're going to play the ignorance card though, please take it elsewhere. Thanks.

LMAO. That is the farthest thing from a threat; I only stated a fact. I didnt threaten you with ANYTHING.

EDIT: Nice try, removing that post.

Mods, sorry for the double post, but it was necessary for clarification. 'twon't happen again.

To make this post ontopic, i will edit a picture in here as soon as its done rendering.