[Map]Warlocks

Philly · Post by **Philly** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:59 am

Could it be outstanding, or is there a rule about custom BSP's?

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 1:05 pm

Philly wrote:Could it be outstanding, or is there a rule about custom BSP's?

I think I remember seeing a custom BSP mod in there somewhere..
I'd say it's outstanding worthy.. whether it be in the Custom Edition section, or the HPC section.

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:37 pm

I believe the rule is: Any PC->CE map may not be in outstanding, unless converted by the creator.

I'm glad people like the map

Also, yes JK, Decoy released a custom map and it made outstanding.

http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=38868

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 10:54 pm

Ah yes.

Ombre · Post by **Ombre** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:12 am

Wasn't that back when converting wasn't as simple as a few clicks of the mouse? I don't think any mods that are just converted CE maps should go to the outstanding section. If it isn't good enough to go to the CE outstanding section it isn't good enough for the PC one. And if it is good enough it should just go to the CE outstanding. I don't even count conversions as mods. Using a custom bsp then modding in PC might be different, but I don't see why someone would do that.

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 1:45 am

But that was also when people were creating quality stuff. Out of the stuff in the download section today, this stands out. I see how you're viewing this, "Converted from CE. Lame" this took me about a week to make with CE. I put tons of effort into this map. You have to view what I did before "a few clicks of the mouse". And yes, I have successfully converted CE maps to PC maps before harbinger. Hell I even wrote a tut on how to CE->PC the correct way. One does not just download CE and simply make a detailed map. Its not that easy, if it was, CE (here) would not be dead. I'm not some noob saying, "give outstanding plox," no. I am a modder with 15 of mods, not counting CE. I have taught myself how to get where I am today. I have experimented and solved my problems while others here are wanting people to help them solve a modder everyday problems. I can go on and on, but I'll stop for now. I hope you see my standpoint.

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:15 am

All the other maps took way longer then that, andrew. If its outstanding anywhere, IMO it should be in the CE. But, no offense to you andrew, this doesn't look that great of a map. I've seen much better still not make it into the outstanding.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:14 am

My personal opinion is to have it here...it's a mod playable on the PC version of Halo, but the effort was put into it in making it on CE. As it was converted to PC, playable on the standard version of Halo, it should be put into the section here. Halo PC modding activity is at a low right now, and still seeing people make maps, and having them playable for PC users, is a good sign.

This isn't "just a conversion" like others have tried to be, where they take someone else's map and just port it over. It's a well done map, it feels fun (admittedly, not playing online, just jumping through by myself)...I believe it stands out from other things. Also, keep in mind, Andrew's done many things like this...I figure there should be some credit given for pushing as hard as he is to keep the PC modding community up.

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:16 am

Wow, Congrats Andrew.

Philly · Post by **Philly** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:20 am

Yes, congratulations on outstanding.

hiheyhello · Post by **hiheyhello** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:21 am

gj andrew on the outstanding

{TP}Spartan · Post by **{TP}Spartan** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:42 pm

Andrew yyayayyayaaa

you did it dude congrats

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:46 pm

I'm speechless.

selentic · Post by **selentic** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:53 am

Cryticfarm wrote:All the other maps took way longer then that, andrew. If its outstanding anywhere, IMO it should be in the CE. But, no offense to you andrew, this doesn't look that great of a map. I've seen much better still not make it into the outstanding.

This.

All I really see are insets, and extrudes. You need a lot more practice before you/anyone can say its great. As of now its just a tad above average.

Keep trying.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:49 pm

I don't see what the 'technique' he used matters. It's a good map. If what he does works for him, then it's irrelevant. It's all personal preference.

conure · Post by **conure** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:54 pm

JK-47 wrote:I don't see what the 'technique' he used matters. It's a good map. If what he does works for him, then it's irrelevant. It's all personal preference.

You said it yourself, good not "outstanding."

In the end it really doesnt matter what is said in this topic becuase there is no one set standard for outstanding mods; any set standard for a mod to be outstanding would be ridiculous. Also a key note is that the manner of conversion *does* matter in on this, or did. For instance when sparkedit mods first came out it was like "omg, hax!" and if i am not mistaken a few of them made it to outstanding.

Examples

http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=6515
http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=5946
http://forums.halomods.com/viewtopic.php?t=3466

Is there more to these mods then i am implying with the commet "spark edit mods" ? Yes there is, but if it was done today would it be in outstanding? Probaly not. Do i think they deserve outstanding? For the time frame, yes.

This is one of those discussions that can go on forever, but lets not.
Lets go with the "Oh, good for him" approach and not turn this topic into something it isnt.

//end of ramble

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:17 pm

conure wrote:
JK-47 wrote:I don't see what the 'technique' he used matters. It's a good map. If what he does works for him, then it's irrelevant. It's all personal preference.
You said it yourself, good not "outstanding."

That's a little literal, conure :3

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:24 pm

Can people stop giving me shit. I'm not acting leet, or acting better than anyone else. Please.

Philly · Post by **Philly** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:14 am

Oh dear. This is what happened to Pepsi. Andrew_b, this mod is outstanding for a reason. It's awesome.

selentic · Post by **selentic** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:19 am

Philly wrote:Oh dear. This is what happened to Pepsi. Andrew_b, this mod is outstanding for a reason. It's good.

Wait what?