Covenent Versus Locusts

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:05 pm

Just got directed to a thread over at FacePunch (yes, quite possibly the worst forum ever...) with a very interesting topic:
Based purely on in-game events (which virtually screws over the Covenant, as most of their leet comes from canon presented in the Halo Bible), who would win: the Covenant or the Locusts? (We're talking GoW for those of who haven't figured it out yet)
Now in true FP fashion, a lot of their discussion was utter bull****, so it's not worth going there (unless you seek lols), so I'd actually like to start something off here, and to make things fair, we'll include canonical references.

So, based off of what we know of both stories, who would win, Covenant versus Locusts?

I'll start off with:
The Covenant would win hands down. After losing thousands on the ground, they would retreat to space and begin glassing the planet (let's say we're on Sera, to keep things fair for the Locusts) Only a few hours later, there would be nothing left and the Covenant will have won.

Sgt.Peppers · Post by **Sgt.Peppers** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:21 pm

Well, if it's the same covenant from Halo 2. No, I don't think so.

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:26 pm

Sgt.Peppers wrote:Well, if it's the same covenant from Halo 2. No, I don't think so.

Please provide support for your views.
The Locusts have no space fairing vessels and their weapons are lackluster at best. The available options for the Covenant is extremely high, and if all else fails, they may still be able to recruit the Locusts.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:27 pm

Covenant, purely because of their technology. Brumaks can't be too common population wise...so I'm sure they would be taken out of the equation pretty fast. I don't think the Locust really have any other "amazing" weapons either.

HPDarkness · Post by **HPDarkness** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:02 pm

The Covenant. They would just be able to glass the planet. Then the Locus can't get out

Z4ck · Post by **Z4ck** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:17 pm

Indeed, the Locusts don't have that cool laser technology, but they do have some interesting stuff.

Those crazy screaming things that they have swarms of...

Beserker Army = Unlimited Powa.

Chainsaws.

Tag Grenades

Ummm.. Those giant spider things

They have creatures, that are huge and powerful... And besides, Beserkers don't die unless they are hit with the hammer of dawn right? Well the Covies have some laser crap but it won't do shit against Beserkers.

What else do they have!? Oh yes. A huge army, Troika, and those flying seeders.

V0Lt4Ge · Post by **V0Lt4Ge** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:21 pm

HPDarkness1 wrote:The Covenant. They would just be able to glass the planet. Then the Locus can't get out

SHAZAM!

A better comparison would be how certain covenant soldiers would fair against certain locusts soldiers (IE, Brutes vs. Theron Guards, Hunters vs. Beserkers, etc.)

Z4ck · Post by **Z4ck** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:27 pm

V0Lt4Ge wrote:
HPDarkness1 wrote:The Covenant. They would just be able to glass the planet. Then the Locus can't get out
SHAZAM!

A better comparison would be how certain covenant soldiers would fair against certain locusts soldiers (IE, Brutes vs. Theron Guards, Hunters vs. Beserkers, etc.)

Brutes wouldn't stand against Theron guards if they shoot arrows that when they get lodged into you, they blow up.

Hunters would get owned by Beserkers... Hunters have the strength and the fuel rod but so do Beserkers. Due to beserkers only being killed by the HoD...

How I know? Playing Beserkers in Insane mode... Man, it's crazy! Just TOUCHING them gets you killed, and they don't even try then you're downed! And it's even crazier when they curb stomp you...

bricksarefun · Post by **bricksarefun** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:31 pm

To all the claims that covenant would win because they could glass the plant makes no sense. I don't know who would win, but if it was the covies it wouldn't be because of their decision to glass the hell outta the planet. Read the Halo books, glassing only takes out a small portion of the top crust of the planet, and since the locusts predominantly live underground, glassing wouldn't do much against them. Covies live in space where locusts can't reach easily, locusts live underground where covies can't reach easily.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:33 pm

spider things= corpsers mb

super heated plasma> lead projectials

bricksarefun · Post by **bricksarefun** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:37 pm

Armed Civilian wrote:super heated plasma> lead projectials

Lol, then how come MC kicks covie ass with SMGs and a BR?

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:43 pm

Well, that's because he's MC. In general, plasma weapons are better. (explains it in the books if you care to read them)

Z4ck · Post by **Z4ck** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:47 pm

Hmmm... Well still, maybe the plasma may kill some Locust drones and soldiers, but Locusts have creatures...

But also, Locusts have some bad-ass snipers and grenadiers AND the shotgun.

Now, plasma can kill but it doesn't make a huge hole in your stomach.

Carmine wrote:This thing's jammed!!! See?! *Headshot*

EDIT: Now just imagine if the Locusts/Covies harnest the Flood... And or the Flood get involved in the war? Who would be fighting who?

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:11 pm

Z4ck wrote:
Now, plasma can kill but it doesn't make a huge hole in your stomach.

Yeah, it does, it burns through you... Well... Pretty much melts what it touches. They just don't show it in Halo cause... Halo isn't that gory.

Covenant. Hands down.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:35 pm

bricksarefun wrote:
Armed Civilian wrote:super heated plasma> lead projectials
Lol, then how come MC kicks covie ass with SMGs and a BR?

In the books The MC Barly gets by. amd plus his sheilds are better than the covies.

if you take out the Giant orbital assualt ships i think the Locust would win.

Jsst due to the fact that they have some big ass monter badies. why?? the locust can come out of anywhere and attack anytime.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:00 pm

Armed Civilian wrote:
bricksarefun wrote:
Armed Civilian wrote:super heated plasma> lead projectials
Lol, then how come MC kicks covie ass with SMGs and a BR?
In the books The MC Barly gets by. amd plus his sheilds are better than the covies.

if you take out the Giant orbital assualt ships i think the Locust would win.

Jsst due to the fact that they have some big ass monter badies. why?? the locust can come out of anywhere and attack anytime.

Yeah but the covenant are much more organized, and have battle plans. As the Locusts (from what I've experienced) just run out rambo style and shoot anything that's not on their side. Plus, the covenant has better weapons. If you took out the fact that in halo the weapons don't burn holes through you, or explode you into bits, their technology weapon wise is really powerful. Not to mention they can go invisible

.
I dunno, I just think the Covenant kicks ass like that.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:04 pm

JK-47 wrote:
Armed Civilian wrote:
bricksarefun wrote:
Armed Civilian wrote:super heated plasma> lead projectials
Lol, then how come MC kicks covie ass with SMGs and a BR?
In the books The MC Barly gets by. amd plus his sheilds are better than the covies.

if you take out the Giant orbital assualt ships i think the Locust would win.

Jsst due to the fact that they have some big ass monter badies. why?? the locust can come out of anywhere and attack anytime.
Yeah but the covenant are much more organized, and have battle plans. As the Locusts (from what I've experienced) just run out rambo style and shoot anything that's not on their side. Plus, the covenant has better weapons. If you took out the fact that in halo the weapons don't burn holes through you, or explode you into bits, their technology weapon wise is really powerful. Not to mention they can go invisible .
I dunno, I just think the Covenant kicks ass like that.

Breserkers MBS!!!!

lol
Battle plans and being Organized anit going to do diddly if they just open a crater below and have a corpser just eat them.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:05 pm

Armed Civilian wrote: lol
Battle plans and being Organized anit going to do diddly if they just open a crater below and have a corpser just eat them.

Running like hell sounds like a great battle plan at that point.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:15 pm

and besides i think at the begining the Covies would dom. but the locust have some many things to bring to the table.

They have expendable infantry(alot) They Have Huge corpsers that even plasma would could not triffle with, then they have Nemecyst and seeders and boomers and breserkers and those huge things with rockets on there back.

Plus!

Torque bow owns everything.

Halo 2 Rules!! · Post by **Halo 2 Rules!!** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:36 am

Here's how I see it working, with troops killing troops

Locust

Brumak-
Strong vs: Brutes, Elites, Jackals, Grunts, Hunters
Weak vs: Buggers (potential to swarm, can probably dodge cannon fire)

Beserker-
Strong vs: Everything
Weak vs: Everything that has a plasma weapon

Corpser-
Strong vs: Everything
Weak vs: Jackal snipers (we all know how quick Corpsers retreat

)

Theron Guard-
Strong vs: Everything (exploding bows?)
Weak vs: Brutes, Elites, Hunters, Jackals, Grunts

Locust (Foot soldiers)-
Strong vs: Grunts, Jackals, Elites
Weak vs: Brutes, Hunters, Elites

Kryll-
Strong vs: Everything
Weak vs: Daylight

Wretches-
Strong vs: Grunts, Jackals
Weak vs: Brutes, Elites, Hunters

Covenant

Hunters-
Strong vs: Locust, Beserker, Theron Guard, Wretches
Weak vs: Locust snipers, Brumak, Kryll, Corpser

Brutes-
Strong vs: Locust, Theron Guard, Wretches
Weak vs: Brumak, Beserker, Kryll, Corpser

Elites-
Strong vs: Locust, Theron Guard, Beserker, Wretches
Weak vs: Brumak, Kryll, Corpser

Jackals-
Strong vs: Locust, Corpser
Weak vs: Brumak, Beserker, Kryll, Theron Guard, Wretches

Grunts-
Strong vs: Locust
Weak vs: Brumak, Beserker, Kryll, Theron Guard, Corpser, Wretches