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Well a big topic that has been coming up lately is Global Warming. I wanted to hear your opinions on this. Is it true? When is it coming? What can we do to stop it? etc. Saw someone say that eating meat is directly responsible for 20% of Global Warming. Do you agree with this? Post your thoughts on the subject.

This video I watched awhile back, has to be the best argument for EITHER side of global warming. No matter how you look at it, you will most likely agree with him.

Watch.

I do believe Global Warming is real and may pose a problem in the future. Whether it's the direct future or sometime to come. I don't know where everyone lives but here in Ohio throughout the years, it seems as though the seasons are being pushed back to different months then what they used to be. We don't have much snow till the very end of December and through January. It can last through probably March or even April. Back when I was a youngster, snow and winter came in November not so much January. I personally believe that is a result of global warming.

I like his argument, but that's because I haven't really heard a well thought out, and organized argument, like that one, for a very long time.

Someone in my class today asked my Chemistry teacher is Global Warming is truly an issue. He did not give us an opinion at first, but after a little pushing, he said that his personal belief was, No. The earth changed between season of hot and cold, and global warming makes the hot seasons(and by seasons, I don't think he means Fall, Winter, Summer, and Spring) longer and the Cold seasons shorter. He believes that it doesn't have any true significance or any long term effect.

Global Warming is 100% true... and proven... The only reason theres any discussion is because people refuse to accept it.

Facts: We pollute CO2 gases. CO2 Gases get stuck in the atmosphere. These CO2 Gases make a "blanket" or sorts around the planet. Previously rays from the sun would penetrate our atmosphere bounce off the earth and be released right back out into space. Due to this "blanket of pollution" the rays are no longer escaping the atmosphere as quickly as they previously did, therefore the planet is getting warmer and warmer the thicker this "blanket" gets.

I don't understand what theres not to agree with...

My opinion is that the planet is going through a natural climate change, something that happens every so often... I do believe we're contributing and perhaps speeding this up, but not by enough to worry about... we weren't around emitting C02 before the previous ice ages and such, so it's gonna happen anyway.

kibito87 wrote:I do believe Global Warming is real and may pose a problem in the future. Whether it's the direct future or sometime to come. I don't know where everyone lives but here in Ohio throughout the years, it seems as though the seasons are being pushed back to different months then what they used to be. We don't have much snow till the very end of December and through January. It can last through probably March or even April. Back when I was a youngster, snow and winter came in November not so much January. I personally believe that is a result of global warming.

Same. I live in Southern Ohio, and I find that the winter season keeps getting pushed back further and further. Just a few weeks ago, it was in the mid 70's. Which, for the winter season, is pretty warm.

iGeo wrote:My opinion is that the planet is going through a natural climate change, something that happens every so often... I do believe we're contributing and perhaps speeding this up, but not by enough to worry about... we weren't around emitting C02 before the previous ice ages and such, so it's gonna happen anyway.

Mini Ice age mbmb?

I believe it is natural as well. And inevitable. Our pollution isn't helping either, though.. In fact, there's so many harmful compounds up in our atmosphere, it's actually preventing solar energy from reaching the surface slightly.

Yamagushi wrote:Global Warming is 100% true... and proven... The only reason theres any discussion is because people refuse to accept it.

I have heard a lot of evolutionists say the same thing... ;/ Nothing is really proven in this world. Facts are constantly changing as we learn new things, where as the world was known to be flat it is now a sphere. There could be many different reasons for what we see as proof of global warming. As far as we know aliens could be doing it... I don't actually believe that, but do you get my point?

iGeo wrote:My opinion is that the planet is going through a natural climate change, something that happens every so often... I do believe we're contributing and perhaps speeding this up, but not by enough to worry about... we weren't around emitting C02 before the previous ice ages and such, so it's gonna happen anyway.

Agreed. Plus, not going to be our problem...we'll all most likely be dead by the time it becomes a major problem.

Ombre wrote:

Yamagushi wrote:Global Warming is 100% true... and proven... The only reason theres any discussion is because people refuse to accept it.

I have heard a lot of evolutionists say the same thing... ;/ Nothing is really proven in this world. Facts are constantly changing as we learn new things, where as the world was known to be flat it is now a sphere. There could be many different reasons for what we see as proof of global warming. As far as we know aliens could be doing it... I don't actually believe that, but do you get my point?

Actually i don't.... Its not like we know global warming is happening but don't know whats causing it. If your looking at "global warming" as a sudden giant change in the worlds temperature that will devastate humanity then sure that may be untrue as it may never affect us.

However if like me your looking at the literal meaning which is the global temperatures slightly rising which yes, some day long from now it could affect us, then I just explained it. Theres no argument, CO2 gases caused by us are making the global temperature rise. Like I said it is proven.

GametagAeonFlux wrote:

iGeo wrote:My opinion is that the planet is going through a natural climate change, something that happens every so often... I do believe we're contributing and perhaps speeding this up, but not by enough to worry about... we weren't around emitting C02 before the previous ice ages and such, so it's gonna happen anyway.

Agreed. Plus, not going to be our problem...we'll all most likely be dead by the time it becomes a major problem.

The Ice Age was not natural it was caused by a comet slamming into the planet and spitting mass debree into the atmosphere blocking most of the suns rays that keep our planet warm and causing our entire planets geo system to go out of wack.

Yamagushi wrote:Previously rays from the sun would penetrate our atmosphere bounce off the earth and be released right back out into space.

Why don't these rays bounce off this big ol' layer of CO2 before hitting the Earth? Rather than only bouncing off on their way out. Something doesn't add up.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in Global Warming, it's just a bit... fishy?

Was there ever a proven link between CO2 and "global warming", or is it just a statistic? If it was never proven, I could use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats(higher in the summer months) is directly related to drowning(also higher in the summer).

I myself believe it is a natural warming period.

Munsie wrote:

Yamagushi wrote:Previously rays from the sun would penetrate our atmosphere bounce off the earth and be released right back out into space.

Why don't these rays bounce off this big ol' layer of CO2 before hitting the Earth? Rather than only bouncing off on their way out. Something doesn't add up.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in Global Warming, it's just a bit... fishy?

Most planets with a high level of CO2 have a hot surface. It absorbs heat, not bounces off.

WaywornMmmmm wrote:Was there ever a proven link between CO2 and "global warming", or is it just a statistic? If it was never proven, I could use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats(higher in the summer months) is directly related to drowning(also higher in the summer).

I myself believe it is a natural warming period.

Like I said, CO2 traps heat.

However, I don't believe our CO2 levels are drastically changing the planet. It takes years and years for that stuff to even get up to the atmosphere. So, it's really likely that, like GTAF said, we won't see the effects of global warming.

No doubt, global warming is happening, however, I don't believe it's mainly because of us. We could contribute, and we may have, but this thing has happened before. It's not just the atmosphere, the increase of melting ice could mess up the balance of warm and cold water in the oceanic conveyor belt (Kinda like in that one movie..). That conveyor belt brings a lot of the heat up to the northern countries.

Effects of this failing are evident in the past, in the time of the little ice age. I'm not going so far as to say it would happen, but it may be a possibility. I do care that this may happen, however, there's nothing we can do to stop it. If it is indeed pollution causing this, then it's too late, I believe.

WaywornMmmmm wrote:Was there ever a proven link between CO2 and "global warming", or is it just a statistic? If it was never proven, I could use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats(higher in the summer months) is directly related to drowning(also higher in the summer).

I myself believe it is a natural warming period.

....where to start....;
1) Yes it was proven, I just explained it.
2) How would that be a statistic....? Do you know what a statistic is...?
3) Please go on I would like to hear you use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats relates to increased drownings. I don't see how you could.

Global Warming is not a myth, it is true and I don't care about it because we aren't gonna be alive for when something tragic happens.

Yamagushi wrote:

Munsie wrote:

Yamagushi wrote:Previously rays from the sun would penetrate our atmosphere bounce off the earth and be released right back out into space.

Why don't these rays bounce off this big ol' layer of CO2 before hitting the Earth? Rather than only bouncing off on their way out. Something doesn't add up.

Don't get me wrong, I believe in Global Warming, it's just a bit... fishy?

Very interesting question ill agree, do a search online im sure you will find the answer. Post back and let us know what you find.

Are you kidding? I just posted the reason.

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Yamagushi wrote:

WaywornMmmmm wrote:Was there ever a proven link between CO2 and "global warming", or is it just a statistic? If it was never proven, I could use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats(higher in the summer months) is directly related to drowning(also higher in the summer).

I myself believe it is a natural warming period.

3) Please go on I would like to hear you use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats relates to increased drownings. I don't see how you could.

I'll do it!

Frozen treats are eaten at the beach, where it is very hot. The melted treats fall into the ocean, raising the water level, killing all inside of it. Though highly unlikely to happen, you can't prove that it can't.

But, his real point was that

Was there ever a proven link between CO2 and "global warming", or is it just a statistic

and that he hasn't seen a link between the two. So really, he's saying that the increase in one, doesn't necessarily bring about the increase in another.

Yamagushi wrote:

WaywornMmmmm wrote:Was there ever a proven link between CO2 and "global warming", or is it just a statistic? If it was never proven, I could use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats(higher in the summer months) is directly related to drowning(also higher in the summer).

I myself believe it is a natural warming period.

....where to start....;
1) Yes it was proven, I just explained it.
2) How would that be a statistic....? Do you know what a statistic is...?
3) Please go on I would like to hear you use the same logic to say sales of frozen treats relates to increased drownings. I don't see how you could.

I see.
1.Well, considering that CO2 traps the suns rays, wouldn't the CO2 act more to keep the rays out of our atmosphere than in?
2.For lack of a better word I said statistic. What I meant is that if two statistics are proportional, then they are dependent of each other.
3.You seem to have missed my point here. I gave two facts, that are known to be unrelated, but have proportional statistics. I was saying that the logic would be flawed to say global warming is real, only on this statistical correlation.