Just a few thoughts.
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:59 am
Have many of you ever wondered, why is it the people and government of Iran and other middle eastern countries have hated (yes, i mean hated) America? Is it because of our invasion of Iraq? Because we support Israel (our biggest ally)? Which is hated by every other Islamic dominated country in the world. Is it because we do have an interest in oil? I have thought many times to myself, how is it that in the name of Islam that anti-americanism can spread so fast and so well? Here is the definition of anti-americanism.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti-americanism
How come anti-americanism is against the people? Other than a few choices of our government, why is it they (as in anti-americanism supporters) hate the american people? Some would say its because we value freedom of religion,speech, etc. Some would say its because we are the super power in the world and they are just jealous. Some could say its because we are "greedy" and dont value the things we have in life. The list can go on, but we must look back. For years, Islam, Chrisitianity, and Jewdism have been the dominiate religion. They fought it out through out the crusades. Al-Qaida today and other islamic groups have declared jihad on America.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Jihad
So, bascially they have declared a holy war on America. Why is that? No-one can go personally ask Osama Bin Laden, so we will never know his input, but why? It all starts in Iran. Christianity has been the dominate religion in America since its creation. The crusades took place in the middle east for Jerusalem, which was left to Jewdism after the war. In my opinion, the reasons for Jihad is because of our actions with the middle east. Anti-americanism has been said to have started in and around the years of Iranian dominated Shah regime. (which was basically dominated by the US and other western allies because they had close ties to Germany during WWII, we (allied nations) invaded Iran and left the Shah regime to control) We basically controlled the Shah and established what some considered a "good relationship". The Shad regime was noted for taking away freedom of speech, and ousting other political opponents with its use of the SAVAK (basically their own CIA). The USSR also had its say in things because they helped invade Iran. The pro-USSR political group was ousted from Iran during the beginning stages of the Cold War. So basically we OWNED Iran despite the fact that they were represented as a free nation. We had a major oil deal with Iran which had support from 8 different presidents before the collapse of the Shah regime. So how was anti-americanism started? Ayatollah Khomeini was ousted by the Shah, and was considered a threat by the US. He was considered the first to spread anti-americanism. So, why did he hate the US? During the Shah's reign, the Shah took drifted away from an Islamic government. Giving better voting rights to women (which Islam freaking hates), violated their constitution, for close ties to the US which is Christian dominated, and changed the Islamic calendar to the "imperial calendar". So some of you are probaly thinking, why is this a big deal? The reason, the Ayatollah believed that the US was their to convert Islam to Chrisitanity. Americans have believed for some time that men and women are equal. Islam however does not, and since we support womens rights, it is viewed as a change in Islam. That is why they have such great support. Now, the Shah regime collapsed, basically ending any kind of US support in that country. How does the Ayatollah show us, he kidnaps our people at the US Embysee and hold them hostage. Many dont konw the importance of the hostage crisis, why did they do it? The importance of the take over, was the show that America no longer existed in Iran.
Then Iran strikes again:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran. ... s.bombing/
Through failed rescue attempts, etc. America looked weak, so what did we do. Involved ourself into more middle eastern problems and convince even more people that America is their to convert Islam. Give support to Iraq during the Iraq and Iran war. Bribe Iran with weapons as well to get our people back (Reagan Arms Deal). Give support for the mujahadeen during the Afghanistan campaign. The Iraq and Iran war ends in a stalemate because Saddam is a f*ing moron. (Sorry, i got immature there because this war basically set the tone for the rest of the years proceeding until today) Read up on the Iraq and Iran War and you will know why. Time goes by and both Iraq and Iran are devistated by the war. Osama doesnt want the US's help because they know the US isnt giving support because we would like to help, but because it was against the USSR. Osama doesnt welcome the support but takes it anyways. Why not, wouldnt you take weapons and training from the US? Some say Osama was our friend at one time, no he wasnt, he has never liked the US after receiving teachings from the Muslim Brotherhood and other (stupiding f*ing forms of the Koran) teachings of Islam. Osama wins the war against the USSR, but doesnt praise the US for our help. Believes he won the war himself, along with his fighters. (Now he is a god). How does a God gain strength, he doesnt have too, he already has it. Its 1992, Somalia. We are suppose to be their for humanitarian aid right? So, we get together with the UN and some other countries and help out. What is the dominate religion in Somalia, hmm, lets look, Islam. Why do anti-americanists believe we are there? "O yea, they are trying to convert Islam again". So, 24 Pakistani soldiers are killed and the humanitarian aid turns into a war. (Do not believe the movie Black Hawk Down, because it is so f*ing wrong from the truth, FYI: We lost 4 helicopters on that day, not 2.) Why is it, the rebels in Somalia hated the US? Since we were there militarily, the helicopters would blow off girls dresses, not over stands, etc. The country socially hated the US presence their. The fighting increased this tension, because they believed what Farrah Addid was saying over the public radio: "The US is here to take our first borns and wifes. They are here to convert us to Chrisitanity and take what is left of our struggling country". Why the f*ck would we want to take control of Somalia? What, we would get a few camels maybe?!? So, they drag our troops through the streets on the day our choppers were shot down. Cut the bodies into pieces and parade them around the streets. So much for humanitarian aid right? (I might make a whole other thread just for this topic, because this is one reason why I hate President Clinton and the democrats) So, again, were are in another Islamic country to convert them right? Al-Qaida gets pissy and starts planning attacks against the US. So, our "friend" Saddam decides, hey, im gonna invade Kuwait. Kuwait asks for our help, so we help Kuwait. Were doing the right thing, right? So, we station our troops in Saudi Arabia before our attack. Osama gets his panties in a knot and believes that the Islamic countries shouldnt ask help from countries dominated by Christianity. Believes, if you need help ask another muslim country. So, we invade, basically annialate Iraq and return home. We did a good thing right? Apparently we didnt in the eyes of Islam. So, lets get a recap real quick. We are in another Islamic country with military force there to convert them to Christianity. (Desert Storm was before Somalia, but basically it still has the same effect on both situations) So, Osama gets on tv, says he plans to destroy America. So, what does the President of the United States do about this. Hmm, shoot a rocket a him at miss him by 20 feet. This was suppose to scare him I guess. Instead, he gains more support because people felt sorry for him because he was attacked "wrongfully". Well, he retaliates by trying to knock down the World Trade Center with a bomb. We arrest some loser because he apparently planned the whole thing. Which he was part of the Muslim Brotherhood I told you about earlier. What happens next, US still has overwhelming concern over Iraq. We shoot missiles into Iraq. The next attack against America which barely anyone in this country even remembers, the USS Cole attack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
The next hit against America. 9/11. So, we respond by taking out Afghanistan. So, in Al-Qaida's minds, getting closer to try taking over the middle east. Next, we invade Iraq. Well, we have good ties with Israel and now we have invaded 2 countries in middle east and were trying to spread democracy. Giving women rights is a value this country accepts, so those other countries should too right? So, basically a recap on things. We are in another muslim country with military force to convert them to Christianity. Well, Christians are apparently running all over the middle east hoping to eventually gain control of Islam. So, apparently we are crusading to get back Jerusalem.
So, to make this long a*s post come to an end finally ill recap. The reasons behind anti-americanism, isnt because we invaded Iraq, isnt because our interest in oil, it was because in their eyes we are there to convert them to Christianity. They believe, our interests in the middle east are a crusade to gain back Jerusalem and get rid of Islam. Thank you for your time. Please read the entire post, sorry for an grammar mistakes. Man, what a few thoughts I had indeed.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anti-americanism
How come anti-americanism is against the people? Other than a few choices of our government, why is it they (as in anti-americanism supporters) hate the american people? Some would say its because we value freedom of religion,speech, etc. Some would say its because we are the super power in the world and they are just jealous. Some could say its because we are "greedy" and dont value the things we have in life. The list can go on, but we must look back. For years, Islam, Chrisitianity, and Jewdism have been the dominiate religion. They fought it out through out the crusades. Al-Qaida today and other islamic groups have declared jihad on America.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Jihad
So, bascially they have declared a holy war on America. Why is that? No-one can go personally ask Osama Bin Laden, so we will never know his input, but why? It all starts in Iran. Christianity has been the dominate religion in America since its creation. The crusades took place in the middle east for Jerusalem, which was left to Jewdism after the war. In my opinion, the reasons for Jihad is because of our actions with the middle east. Anti-americanism has been said to have started in and around the years of Iranian dominated Shah regime. (which was basically dominated by the US and other western allies because they had close ties to Germany during WWII, we (allied nations) invaded Iran and left the Shah regime to control) We basically controlled the Shah and established what some considered a "good relationship". The Shad regime was noted for taking away freedom of speech, and ousting other political opponents with its use of the SAVAK (basically their own CIA). The USSR also had its say in things because they helped invade Iran. The pro-USSR political group was ousted from Iran during the beginning stages of the Cold War. So basically we OWNED Iran despite the fact that they were represented as a free nation. We had a major oil deal with Iran which had support from 8 different presidents before the collapse of the Shah regime. So how was anti-americanism started? Ayatollah Khomeini was ousted by the Shah, and was considered a threat by the US. He was considered the first to spread anti-americanism. So, why did he hate the US? During the Shah's reign, the Shah took drifted away from an Islamic government. Giving better voting rights to women (which Islam freaking hates), violated their constitution, for close ties to the US which is Christian dominated, and changed the Islamic calendar to the "imperial calendar". So some of you are probaly thinking, why is this a big deal? The reason, the Ayatollah believed that the US was their to convert Islam to Chrisitanity. Americans have believed for some time that men and women are equal. Islam however does not, and since we support womens rights, it is viewed as a change in Islam. That is why they have such great support. Now, the Shah regime collapsed, basically ending any kind of US support in that country. How does the Ayatollah show us, he kidnaps our people at the US Embysee and hold them hostage. Many dont konw the importance of the hostage crisis, why did they do it? The importance of the take over, was the show that America no longer existed in Iran.
Then Iran strikes again:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran. ... s.bombing/
Through failed rescue attempts, etc. America looked weak, so what did we do. Involved ourself into more middle eastern problems and convince even more people that America is their to convert Islam. Give support to Iraq during the Iraq and Iran war. Bribe Iran with weapons as well to get our people back (Reagan Arms Deal). Give support for the mujahadeen during the Afghanistan campaign. The Iraq and Iran war ends in a stalemate because Saddam is a f*ing moron. (Sorry, i got immature there because this war basically set the tone for the rest of the years proceeding until today) Read up on the Iraq and Iran War and you will know why. Time goes by and both Iraq and Iran are devistated by the war. Osama doesnt want the US's help because they know the US isnt giving support because we would like to help, but because it was against the USSR. Osama doesnt welcome the support but takes it anyways. Why not, wouldnt you take weapons and training from the US? Some say Osama was our friend at one time, no he wasnt, he has never liked the US after receiving teachings from the Muslim Brotherhood and other (stupiding f*ing forms of the Koran) teachings of Islam. Osama wins the war against the USSR, but doesnt praise the US for our help. Believes he won the war himself, along with his fighters. (Now he is a god). How does a God gain strength, he doesnt have too, he already has it. Its 1992, Somalia. We are suppose to be their for humanitarian aid right? So, we get together with the UN and some other countries and help out. What is the dominate religion in Somalia, hmm, lets look, Islam. Why do anti-americanists believe we are there? "O yea, they are trying to convert Islam again". So, 24 Pakistani soldiers are killed and the humanitarian aid turns into a war. (Do not believe the movie Black Hawk Down, because it is so f*ing wrong from the truth, FYI: We lost 4 helicopters on that day, not 2.) Why is it, the rebels in Somalia hated the US? Since we were there militarily, the helicopters would blow off girls dresses, not over stands, etc. The country socially hated the US presence their. The fighting increased this tension, because they believed what Farrah Addid was saying over the public radio: "The US is here to take our first borns and wifes. They are here to convert us to Chrisitanity and take what is left of our struggling country". Why the f*ck would we want to take control of Somalia? What, we would get a few camels maybe?!? So, they drag our troops through the streets on the day our choppers were shot down. Cut the bodies into pieces and parade them around the streets. So much for humanitarian aid right? (I might make a whole other thread just for this topic, because this is one reason why I hate President Clinton and the democrats) So, again, were are in another Islamic country to convert them right? Al-Qaida gets pissy and starts planning attacks against the US. So, our "friend" Saddam decides, hey, im gonna invade Kuwait. Kuwait asks for our help, so we help Kuwait. Were doing the right thing, right? So, we station our troops in Saudi Arabia before our attack. Osama gets his panties in a knot and believes that the Islamic countries shouldnt ask help from countries dominated by Christianity. Believes, if you need help ask another muslim country. So, we invade, basically annialate Iraq and return home. We did a good thing right? Apparently we didnt in the eyes of Islam. So, lets get a recap real quick. We are in another Islamic country with military force there to convert them to Christianity. (Desert Storm was before Somalia, but basically it still has the same effect on both situations) So, Osama gets on tv, says he plans to destroy America. So, what does the President of the United States do about this. Hmm, shoot a rocket a him at miss him by 20 feet. This was suppose to scare him I guess. Instead, he gains more support because people felt sorry for him because he was attacked "wrongfully". Well, he retaliates by trying to knock down the World Trade Center with a bomb. We arrest some loser because he apparently planned the whole thing. Which he was part of the Muslim Brotherhood I told you about earlier. What happens next, US still has overwhelming concern over Iraq. We shoot missiles into Iraq. The next attack against America which barely anyone in this country even remembers, the USS Cole attack.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
The next hit against America. 9/11. So, we respond by taking out Afghanistan. So, in Al-Qaida's minds, getting closer to try taking over the middle east. Next, we invade Iraq. Well, we have good ties with Israel and now we have invaded 2 countries in middle east and were trying to spread democracy. Giving women rights is a value this country accepts, so those other countries should too right? So, basically a recap on things. We are in another muslim country with military force to convert them to Christianity. Well, Christians are apparently running all over the middle east hoping to eventually gain control of Islam. So, apparently we are crusading to get back Jerusalem.
So, to make this long a*s post come to an end finally ill recap. The reasons behind anti-americanism, isnt because we invaded Iraq, isnt because our interest in oil, it was because in their eyes we are there to convert them to Christianity. They believe, our interests in the middle east are a crusade to gain back Jerusalem and get rid of Islam. Thank you for your time. Please read the entire post, sorry for an grammar mistakes. Man, what a few thoughts I had indeed.