Immigration to the U.S.

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:50 pm

yeah, thats true, bc there will always be a significant number of ppl there that will defy democracy (as we are already seeing right now in Iraq)

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:40 pm

No, their Culture cant take it. Theyve been tought throughout thousands of years. All Islamic countries throught history was ruled by a Shah, Emperor, or a king. its not like you can go to a dictatorship to a Democracy so easily and so fast. when you do that, people like HAMAS get into power. they're to radical to have a democracy.

imgettionowned · Post by **imgettionowned** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:46 am

Democracy is not necessary for a country to be free, but it is the most proven succesful form of gov.
Hussein killed thousands of his own people because of their religion, and
because they disagreed with him
Doesn't this sound like two other infamous dictators, Stalin and Hitler?

I also believe that over the next 10 years the middle east will experience a
"rebirth" of sorts

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:11 am

Im srry to change the subject, but this is all over the local news here:
http://nctimes.com/articles/2006/03/30/ ... _29_06.txt
thats the neighboring school district from me (im in vista). it got bad enough that there were students throwing broken cement at the police, and the police threw pepper spray back. that school district is closed for the rest of the week... im writing this at school, and there is a suspected walkout tomorrow (friday)

imgettionowned · Post by **imgettionowned** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:30 am

Violence is completely uncalled for. All they're doing is making themselves look like complete asses. If they continue crap like this there's going to be a riot

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:36 pm

i wrote this essay on illegal immigration a while back for school.
http://www.savefile.com/files/4411209
it also addresses some other issues like relation between illegal immigration and terrorism.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:31 pm

Wow you live in Vista? Cool! I used to live in Fallbrook over looking pendleton. Our school is going on complete lcokdown tomorow. Any protesters found outside will be Cited for Truancy and disrupting school activity.

Tomorrow is the projected "Big One" seeing how tomorrow is Cesar Chavez's birthday.

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:17 pm

yeah, they just announced it, no school tomorrow... i go to guajome park academy, i dont know if youve heard of it (its a fairly small charter school)

EDIT:

Cuda wrote:Any protesters found outside will be Cited for Truancy and disrupting school activity. Tomorrow is the projected "Big One" seeing how tomorrow is Cesar Chavez's birthday.

yeah, also tomorrow is the last day before spring break, so i expected them to make a last stand. also, there is the fact that there was a discussion on myspace for planning it.

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:22 pm

Well at our school, we got a whole week left, so we got another whole week of protest.

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:56 pm

wow, that sucks. we get 2 wks.

but our summer is shorter

Cuda · Post by **Cuda** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:16 pm

I know how the NC school districts opperate...

I cant wait till tomorrow.One of my friend's brother is a skinhead, and he said that if they start protesting, he's gonna start a fight with one of them, so I kinda want to see it go down.

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:15 am

sounds cool, there was fights all over when the protests were happening. unfortunately, the school was on lockdown (to prevent more students from joining the protest)

Warbandit mk 3 · Post by **Warbandit mk 3** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:16 am

Cuda wrote:The News Lies. They support the Amnesty I dug up some photos of A high school In Montibello California, where Students backed by Teachers, did this.

These photos were not manipulated in any way.

Posted on their Site.
MichelleMalkin.com wrote:scroll for updates...new photo added below of a student in Dallas screamed at by an angry mob for carrying an American flag...plus fence-hopping at Montebello H.S...unreality-based Ted Kennedy gets the Clueless Blowhard of the Day Award...chanting in Las Vegas: "La raza unida jamas sera vencida," or "The united (Hispanic) race will never be defeated."...protests turn violent in Watsonville...FrontPageMag: Who's behind the [illegal] immigration rallies?...E-mail your Senators...Debra J. Saunders debunks an open-borders myth...Juan Mann reports at The Immigration Blog: Reconquistas inside the federal immigration bureaucracy?***

You will not see this heart-stopping photo on the front page of the NY Times or on the lead story of the major news networks. You should (hat tip: Mika and F/R):

And this Girl in Dallas, Being Critisized for carrying an American Flag

Link To the Set

iknow some Illegal immigrants that are nice people, but when shit like this happens, kinda lose support for their cause don't you?

Link to the Montebello High picures

They are so ungrateful, they should be glad we even let them live here! The weird thing is, the hispanic kids are the only ones who live here and hate America. Makes me wanna lock them up in jail. Those kids are traitors, they should all be deported, just those protesting kids though, nobody else. If they hate America so much, they should move back to Mexico, regardless of what anybody says. I bet, they would still hate america if we showed them Tijuana (poor kids selling gum, filth, and people getting ran over.), or Ethopia.

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:21 am

yeah, they just need to realize how great america really is. they come here expecting to get rich and fame instantly, but many of them dont succeed at that, and so they are mad. one thing they need to realize is, that its the ppl that did succeed who have enough money to go down there, just to tell the others what it is like. and what are they gonna be told? that america is great, and that money grows off trees, when in reality, that is far from the truth.

Warbandit mk 3 · Post by **Warbandit mk 3** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:44 am

gh0570fchurch wrote:yeah, they just need to realize how great america really is. they come here expecting to get rich and fame instantly, but many of them dont succeed at that, and so they are mad. one thing they need to realize is, that its the ppl that did succeed who have enough money to go down there, just to tell the others what it is like. and what are they gonna be told? that america is great, and that money grows off trees, when in reality, that is far from the truth.

Yes, you are right Church. The only reason people are rich in this country, is one of 3 things, 1: People work super hard. 2: They are good at acting or have some entertainment skill. 3: They won the lottery. The Hollywood stars that are rich, sacrificed there privacy to the paparazi, and even they have mass ammounts of work to do. I talked to one hispanic guy, he thought all white people were rich. I guess if you live in a third-world country filled with eternal suffering, you think the greatest country on earth is a huge chunk of money.

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:30 pm

Crossing an imaginary line into an imaginary union of imaginary states.

I want to see this pass just so people become more involved in politics in the US. Also, to see them try and enforce it.

Also, build the wall. I think it's hilarious.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:13 pm

Ok where do i start...... ah yes. Well first off i live next to a place called ogden. And in ogden there is a lot of shootings (my cousin got shot a few years ago

), robberies, and random beatings. Guess how many people commit crimes in ogden who are illegal? Id say a very good portion.

What im basically saying is, why should we let them in illegaly if most of them are going to come here and commit crimes?

Also, when my brother was 16 he wanted to get a job for the summer to collect some money to do things. Well he probably went through 30 places before he found his job... why? Because a lot of the people working there were most likely illegal. And i know im going to go through the exact same thing next summer unless something is done.

Some people say that our economy will crash if we let them go. That is a bullshit statement, all the illegals do is take take take. They work at restaraunts and low class jobs because thier false ID can only take them so far. Oh wow, our economy will sure crash if we have a lower ammount of people to fix our cars, serve our food, etc. Also, ive been hearing that if they leave cabbage will cost more. Which yes i believe but so what? Yes maybe we might stumble a little when they leave but this is America, we have fought through 2 depressions and we have learned from our mistakes, a bunch of illegal immagrants arent going to crumple our country.

Also, its really stupid how the president of mexico doesnt want Americans to own land in his country, but its totally fine for people to come in here and take our land, resources, and air.

Also, i had to transfer out of my old school to get a really good education because the teachers were too busy teaching the illegals english and helping THEM instead of helping the people who can speak english. Im not racist or anything, in fact almost all my friends are mexican, but is it SO hard to come in legaly?

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:18 pm

VoYdE wrote:
Warbandit mk 3 wrote:
Patrickssj6 wrote:
RaVNzCRoFT wrote:I agree completely. I don't think anyone has a right to call Kerry a communist, especially since Bush isn't the next George Washington either.
Whats so bad about communism?

I'll tell you what so bad! Under communism, the government owns you and everything around you. You have no freedom of any kind!! You have to work on collective farms to make food, you don't have your own money, the leader says what you do, it's a living hell in the form of politics. To think, it all started when Karl Marx and his buddies wanted to take over a factory and run it themselves.

This has nothing to do with this topic, but Animal Farm is that story, take over the farm and run it themselves...the beginning of communism in a nutshell.
I Have Never Heard Anything So Incorrect About Communism, Before I Start To Flame, I Suggest You Read More Views That Arent Pumped Full Of Bias That Communism Is Bad.

Yes.

Communism has worked already but has been destroyed many times(Cuba,Russia(Stalin))

Communism isn't bad its just a form of goverment which seams to unhuman.I don't want to talk so great about comunsim expecially in this country but let me put it like this:

Communism is the path to perfection which no one is willing to take.

imgettionowned · Post by **imgettionowned** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:38 pm

Communisms is not the path for perfection unless you have a perfect society.
Why should I try in life if I'm going to make as much money as someone who works at McDonalds, is what most people will be asking.

Patrickssj6 · Post by **Patrickssj6** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 6:50 pm

Maybe you should change priorities.

Oh and BTW Perfect Society=The Goal of Communism

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