Marijuana debate

[Xero]

I give up on this thread most people who have something bad to say about pot have never smoked it so they have no clue what it's like or how it effects them they just get their information from stupid anti drug websites.

Bottom line is if pot was legal nothing bad would happen if anything there would be less crime and more happy people on the street so give the anti pot thing a rest.

That is all.

[SHOUTrvb]

I agree with Xero.

[BEEF!!!]

Aumaan, you also need to take into consideration that it appears that all those papers on that site were produced 10+ years ago. There have been better, more in-depth studies done since then.

[Ragdoll]

Just to add the Xero's post, I am sick of those anti- pot commercials/ websites. They have no substantial evidence, they just make it out to be one huge guilt trip.

[[IA]Paul]

OK, I'm going to make this quick and simple. It's repeating already stated facts and opinions, but I feel a random motivation to post.

Legalize it. We're spending a sh**load trying to stop it, yet it still happens. Also, in my experience, people will do stuff just because they're told not to.

May not be your experience, but this is how it goes for me.

[shadowkhas]

Now, onto marijuana. Addictive substances now added, people are heavily addicted to it.

Yeah. IF other substances are added. Then it isn't marijuana by itself anymore. You're presenting the situation with other things that shouldn't matter. Like Ragdoll said, if it was legalized, people wouldn't need to rely on a corporation to provide it for them.

That's until most of the population can't live without it.

I doubt that "most of the population" will partake in it if it was legalized.

[DRL333]

most people who have something bad to say about pot have never smoked it so they have no clue what it's like or how it effects them they just get their information from stupid anti drug websites.

I totaly agree with you Xero.

[Tural]

That is a fucking stupid argument. You're honestly expecting them to not present an opinion with their known information unless they have fucking smoked pot?

[BEEF!!!]

Now, onto marijuana. Addictive substances now added, people are heavily addicted to it.

Yeah. IF other substances are added. Then it isn't marijuana by itself anymore. You're presenting the situation with other things that shouldn't matter. Like Ragdoll said, if it was legalized, people wouldn't need to rely on a corporation to provide it for them.

I believe that those who already grow it, will continue to do so and very few will join them. Let's be serious, modern America is all about instant gratification. People would rather shell out extra cash to some big business and get what they want now.

[metkillerjoe]

If there are personal experiences involved, it was your friend that did it, right

Yep, I don't smoke marijuana anymore.

Nice save.

And for the people that mentioned the mary-jane additivies advantage, I think it is better that the drug is dulled downed in some sense. Coke was and isn't pure purely because you'd overdose quickly.

[Aumaan Anubis]

Now, onto marijuana. Addictive substances now added, people are heavily addicted to it.

Yeah. IF other substances are added. Then it isn't marijuana by itself anymore. You're presenting the situation with other things that shouldn't matter. Like Ragdoll said, if it was legalized, people wouldn't need to rely on a corporation to provide it for them.

Would you deny that substances would be added? Addictives are added to cigarettes, and caffeine to make it more addicting, and so the population will buy more of the product. Plus, in response to Ragdoll, apples and are fruits can also be grown, but do people do it? No, they don't. Why wait to grow something when you can legally go out and buy it for immediate satisfaction.

That's until most of the population can't live without it.

I doubt that "most of the population" will partake in it if it was legalized.

Meh. I slightly disagree. Teenagers experiment until their addicted, then they pass it on to their children, since it's legal and "perfectly fine." Eventually, it just spreads.

And really, no offense to the guy, Xero, but I can't see how people are agreeing with him. He's posting out of pure opinion, rather than with facts. "Stupid anti drug websites" perfectly demonstrates that. It just tells me that he's fine with people intoxicating themselves with heroin and cocain. And different drugs affect different people in different ways. Just because you have evidence that some people weren't affected, doesn't mean that I'd be perfectly fine.

[DRL333]

That is a *** stupid argument. You're honestly expecting them to not present an opinion with their known information unless they have *** smoked pot?

No, I'm a strong believer in free speech, I don't care what they say, I just think people should have some knoweledge about what they're talking about.

[Tural]

And the only way to get such knowledge is by smoking marijuana?
No. That is retarded.
Educate them if you have a problem with it. Do not just say crap like "wel ur dum so im leevin now."

[CptnNsan0]

It has some effects on driving depending on how much you smoke. If you want to relieve some stress I say it's a great way to do so. I think they should legalize it 100%.

[shadowkhas]

Would you deny that substances would be added? Addictives are added to cigarettes, and caffeine to make it more addicting, and so the population will buy more of the product. Plus, in response to Ragdoll, apples and are fruits can also be grown, but do people do it? No, they don't. Why wait to grow something when you can legally go out and buy it for immediate satisfaction.

I have no doubt that there would be companies trying to cash in on it. What I don't understand with the additives point is that if they're so bad, why the same people who wouldn't legalize it based on that viewpoint aren't fighting tooth and nail to outlaw cigarettes. I'm not directing it at you, I don't know your exact viewpoint on that (and that's another debate for elsewhere, not here, too), but it does come up when I discuss the issue with people at my school.

Meh. I slightly disagree. Teenagers experiment until their addicted, then they pass it on to their children, since it's legal and "perfectly fine." Eventually, it just spreads.

Well, I don't see it like that, and I guess that's my own mindset. My dad says he tried drugs when he lived in Poland, and he smokes cigarettes currently, but I don't have an urge to go out and smoke right now. It depends on the person's upbringing, really.

Just because you have evidence that some people weren't affected, doesn't mean that I'd be perfectly fine.

Agreed. Chemicals in the human body is still something we haven't fully explored.

[DRL333]

And the only way to get such knowledge is by smoking marijuana?

Heh, no, but it certainly did give me knowledge about it's effects, And I would love sit here and educate everyone about my experiances, but have stuff to do at the moment, mabey learn from someone else who has done it.

Peace.

[Tural]

If you will not offer to inform, you have no authority to talk down to people for being uninformed. Good to see you doing exactly what I criticized previously, too. Helps your case.

[sneakyn8]

cigarettes are worse.

lies, actually 1 joint is equal to 10 cigarettes. I do think it should be legalized because alot of people do it, its been handed out by doctors for treatment, i forget which condition, and in general so many people do it, its practically impossible to stop.

ive heard that before but have never found anything to back that up also please tell me filtered or unfiltered also i am in support of legalization the government will be gaining money if it is because it could be taxed like crazy no matter what anybody says it is addictive and as far as i know possession is a felony which cost a lot of money for the govt to charge someone with so with legalization the economy will already be better. second reason. People claim weed is a gateway drug but that is only so because it is the most widely available illegal drug, if you cross one line by smoking weed then the next line will be easy to cross andso on and so forth untill your having an acid flashback in a jail cell.

ALSO:weed was origianaly illegalized b/c racism mexicans brought it with them to america and would never do work white people were the only ones allowed to have it and then the penalty got worse for mexicans/blacks and barely at all for whites

P.S. The same situation with alcohol/tobacco would happen with weed on home production they wouldnt wait for the stuff to grow if they need it now alcoholics dont make their own beverages because that takes tim and they need to be smashed/hammered now and im pretty sure that personally home grown tobacco is a pretty rare occassion

[DRL333]

Ok, mabey I didn't explain my point of view right, Tural, but to sum it up, I believe that having experiance is a good thing. But you're right, you don't have to do something to know alot about it, its just that the information the non-experianced people get might be inacurate or biased. There's nothing like the real thing.

Off-topic: Lol, I just noticed I left out some words in my last post

[OwnZ joO]

To start off I believe it should be legalized.

As for driving high, I wouldn't say it's like you'[re sober, because you're high, but I've heard that if you're not that stoned you can compensate by just giving yourself more reaction time because it does tend to slow your reactions, and if you're totally baked to the point where you shouldn't drive you will either be going really slow or pull over because of having a hard time thinking.

As for addiction, it's not physically addictive at all, but that doesn't mean it's not addictive. It also does cause problems with memory and concentration, so my friend says, but that's all short term and goes away after stopping.

I think it would be great for it to be legalized as long as it was regulated by an organization with standards for it, that way you would know that what you get is actually just bud and there's no additives like coke or lsd or any funny stuff that can get added on the street. Also tax it and spend that money fighting the war on worthwile drugs that need to be policed.

So negative side effects in my opinion:
Short-term memory impairment
Short-term learning impairment
Possible reduction in motivation

Reasons to legalize:
Taxes for the government, ones that wouldn't be disputed as I'm sure users would gladly pay to have legal access to weed that's regulated so you know it's standard.
There's no real legitimate reason for it to be illegal, yes there are negative side effects, but if it were legalized it would only effect the user, like alcohol