Windows Vista

SuperCommando · Post by **SuperCommando** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:37 pm

DRM doesn't even seem bad unless your trying to put the music on limewire so other people can freeload off of you, downloading music is overrated anyway, the best way to get music is to buy the CD then rip it to your computer.

n1ghtsn1p3r · Post by **n1ghtsn1p3r** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:57 pm

From what I have been hearing, even legally ripped or online-purchased music is affected by Vista's DRM technology. Not to mention other things. I only download music that is released as download-only (like in the underground and nerdcore scenes). I do also rip my CDs onto the computer, but if I had Vista, it wouldn't let me use those files if they are DRM protected (I have a couple of DRM protected CDs that I am aware of)

I'm not having a hard time finding anything about it on Google (I'm using the search term "DRM Vista music" [no quotes]).

The thing is is that it's illegal to use open-source media players (along with using them in "non-approved" OSes [I'm thinking they are lumping every one ,besides Windows and OSX, into the "non-approved" category]). This right here hurts people that prefer to use open-source software, like me (I don't really like proprietary software, but I do use it when needed).

So from what I understand, Vista's DRM is way deeper than just downloaded content (stretching out to hardware and media players [such as the iPod] would have to work a lot harder at checking content bit by bit, which can use up battery life faster, and also may prevent Vista from using certain hardware devices).

Alexander · Post by **Alexander** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:26 pm

n1ghtsn1p3r wrote:From what I have been hearing, even legally ripped or online-purchased music is affected by Vista's DRM technology. Not to mention other things. I only download music that is released as download-only (like in the underground and nerdcore scenes). I do also rip my CDs onto the computer, but if I had Vista, it wouldn't let me use those files if they are DRM protected (I have a couple of DRM protected CDs that I am aware of)

I'm not having a hard time finding anything about it on Google (I'm using the search term "DRM Vista music" [no quotes]).

The thing is is that it's illegal to use open-source media players (along with using them in "non-approved" OSes [I'm thinking they are lumping every one ,besides Windows and OSX, into the "non-approved" category]). This right here hurts people that prefer to use open-source software, like me (I don't really like proprietary software, but I do use it when needed).

So from what I understand, Vista's DRM is way deeper than just downloaded content (stretching out to hardware and media players [such as the iPod] would have to work a lot harder at checking content bit by bit, which can use up battery life faster, and also may prevent Vista from using certain hardware devices).

I can tell you from encoding dozens of CD's to FLAC with Vista, and obtaining many discographies while using Vista, I have not once had a problem with sharing the files with someone else's computer, ripping my CD into any format, (Not with WMP of course!), or playing anything I have ever downloaded. If there is a difference between XP, the I have not noticed the obviously minor discrepancy.

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:30 pm

Yeah, Vista's DRM sounds horrible doesn't it...But I'm sure that's the media again...The average user (I guess not us) will probably never encounter problems...Except for HDDVD playback with a non certified monitor

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:16 pm

I'm not sure what all this DRM stuff is... but it's not affecting me in any way.

Also, this clears up any other myths you may believe...

http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/51 ... ed&subj=tr

SuperCommando · Post by **SuperCommando** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:36 pm

Is it true home premium won't use two CPU cores? Guess I'd better aim at business edition =P

Ar5eNiC · Post by **Ar5eNiC** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:45 pm

SuperCommando wrote:Is it true home premium won't use two CPU cores? Guess I'd better aim at business edition =P

No, try reading the article iGeo linked.

Sgt.Peppers · Post by **Sgt.Peppers** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:50 pm

So when is H2 vista coming out?

HPDarkness · Post by **HPDarkness** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:55 pm

H2Vista comes out 6/?/07 I preordered it along with Crysis.

SuperCommando · Post by **SuperCommando** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:38 pm

In fact, all versions of Vista will run on a machine with multiple processors installed--but Home Basic and Premium will recognize and use only one of the processors.

That means home premium would only use half my processor, which means I need the next version up, (or ultimate, I can't decide if I want the media center or not.)

EDIT: oh wait I see, it does that for two totally seperate CPU's, it will recognize dual-core processors.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:03 pm

Myth #4: The only thing new about Vista is the eye candy [further in the same myth]Changes to Windows Explorer make it easier to organize and view your files, with more options. For example, you can see thumbnails of all files (not just graphics) and view their contents in the preview pane without opening them

I call that eye candy.

ScottyGEE · Post by **ScottyGEE** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:25 pm

I think they are saying the eye candy has its uses?

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:58 pm

Yeah, but they were saying that new stuff in Vista isn't about eye candy, then they shoved a couple sentences about eye candy in there. It just made me chuckle.

Hawaiian Modder · Post by **Hawaiian Modder** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:07 pm

I will get it for my birthday probably. By then it will be cheaper and I could probably afford a better graphics card as well.

SuperCommando · Post by **SuperCommando** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:14 pm

Hawaiian Modder wrote: By then it will be cheaper

keep dreaming =P

Hawaiian Modder · Post by **Hawaiian Modder** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:19 pm

June 1st is my birthday, so if it's not cheaper then I'll just get some RAM and a graphics card, then get vista Christmas.

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:20 pm

I'm probably going to remake my PC for Christmas this year...what with all the DX10 cards, bigger hard drives, and fancy schmancy processors coming out...plus, I want a new monitor.

/me kicks 17" monitor.

Loonycgb · Post by **Loonycgb** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:05 pm

im not rich and i got it and its just the people u no

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:07 pm

Loonycgb wrote:im not rich and i got it and its just the people u no

That's illegal.
On a side note: Get to know your English teacher a bit better.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:15 pm

Vegito619 wrote:On a side note: Get to know your English teacher a bit better.

<3

I'm not going to get a DX10 graphics card...maybe when I do a total remake of my computer, but that's still a ways off. I'm happy with what I have now.