Marijuana debate

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Where do you stand?

Legalize it
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53%
Decriminalize it
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Keep it illegal
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Tural wrote:
Hawaiian Modder wrote:I don't think marijuana can cause a state of addiction in your mind unless if you have a real weak mind.
Addiction isn't voluntary. Mental 'weakness,' as you call it, isn't voluntary. Different people react differently, and to somehow say someone's brain is inferior because of an involuntary reaction is incredibly idiotic. Resilience to addiction is hardly superiority, it's merely a difference. I don't know where you get off stating that addiction is a sign of weakness. :roll:
In antiquity, before the discovery of germs and viruses that were the real cause of disease, getting sick was considered either God's punishment for sinning or a sign of spiritual, mental, and physical weakness. They didn't have much knowledge of disease, and we don't really know that much about addiction, so perhaps the claim "addicts are weak" is because of a lack of information.

(Also, I mean lack of information in the scientific community, not this one person)
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Honestly I know people that can't really eat unless they're high because they've smoked so long, he's actually a friend of a friend and when he was trying to quit he could only eat like 5 buffalo wings and that was hard. I mean if you need weed to be able to do something as basic as eat you are addicted, so yes it is addictive and it doesn't mean you're weak, it just means you're addicted.
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OwnZ joO wrote:Honestly I know people that can't really eat unless they're high because they've smoked so long, he's actually a friend of a friend and when he was trying to quit he could only eat like 5 buffalo wings and that was hard. I mean if you need weed to be able to do something as basic as eat you are addicted, so yes it is addictive and it doesn't mean you're weak, it just means you're addicted.
The habit may be addictive, but the drug is not.

I agree with gmp_gmp to the full extent.
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Ombre wrote:The habit may be addictive, but the drug is not.
Exactly, it's like being addicted to porn...
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1 = 10 by the tar content.

Never tried it, don't intend to in the near future, for legalization.
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Marijuana should be illegal because the government says that it gives you cancer and makes you infertile. Also, you should stay above the influence unless Above the Influence is the group influencing you because they have the moral high ground due to their large advertising budget.
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Was that ^ sarcastic??
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Alexander wrote:Marijuana should be illegal because the government says that it gives you cancer and makes you infertile.
Well, the government is wrong then...
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Alexander wrote:Marijuana should be illegal because the government says that it gives you cancer and makes you infertile. Also, you should stay above the influence unless Above the Influence is the group influencing you because they have the moral high ground due to their large advertising budget.
I'm really hoping that's sarcasm.
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You guys really don't know Narker...
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Obviously. :)
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http://health.howstuffworks.com/marijuana.htm

HowStuffWorks has never lead me wrong. Therefore, I still say keep it illegal.
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*sigh* Another site with false and unproven statements just to scare you. Honestly I thought people were too smart to even comprehend that kind of propaganda, makes me sad. :cry:
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Prove that it's wrong.

Otherwise, you can't make that statement.
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Aumaan Anubis wrote:Prove that it's wrong.

Otherwise, you can't make that statement.
It already has over and over in this very thread, open your eyes.
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Aumaan Anubis wrote:Prove that it's wrong.

Otherwise, you can't make that statement.
It seemed rather neutrally worded to me. Care to explain how they say it's so bad?
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If anyone thinks marijuana should be illegal, then they should also be for the illegalization of alcohol as well, IMO.
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The only shred of evidence I've seen is a graph that somebody linked to, explaining how it isn't as harmful as cocaine or heroine.

I've obviously missed all the articles with undeniable information. Anyone care to relink to some sites?
Shadowkhas wrote:It seemed rather neutrally worded to me. Care to explain how they say it's so bad?
HowStuffWorks wrote:When the THC binds with the cannabinoid receptors inside the hippocampus, it interferes with the recollection of recent events. THC also affects coordination, which is controlled by the cerebellum. The basal ganglia controls unconscious muscle movements, which is another reason why motor coordination is impaired when under the influence of marijuana.
HowStuffWorks wrote:Marijuana is filled with hundreds of chemicals
Not exactly evidence, but something with such a large amount of different chemicals has a way of interacting with the body in different, possibly harmful, ways.
HowStuffWorks wrote:Problems with memory and learning
Distorted perception
Difficulty with thinking and problem solving
Loss of coordination
Increased heart rate
Anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks
HowStuffWorks wrote:Ongoing studies now show a number of possible symptoms associated with the cessation of marijuana use. These symptoms most commonly include: irritability, nervousness, depression, anxiety and even anger. Other symptoms are restlessness, severe changes in appetite, violent outbursts, interrupted sleep or even insomnia. In addition to these possible physical effects, psychological dependence usually develops because a person's mind craves the high that it gets when using the drug.
HowStuffWorks wrote:Beyond these effects that marijuana has, marijuana smokers are susceptible to the same health problems as tobacco smokers, such as bronchitis, emphysema and bronchial asthma. Other effects include dry-mouth, red eyes, impaired motor skills and impaired concentration. Long-term use of the drug can increase the risk of damaging the lungs and reproductive system, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). It has also been linked to heart attacks.
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Aumaan Anubis wrote:The only shred of evidence I've seen is a graph that somebody linked to, explaining how it isn't as harmful as cocaine or heroine.

I've obviously missed all the articles with undeniable information. Anyone care to relink to some sites?
Shadowkhas wrote:It seemed rather neutrally worded to me. Care to explain how they say it's so bad?
HowStuffWorks wrote:When the THC binds with the cannabinoid receptors inside the hippocampus, it interferes with the recollection of recent events. THC also affects coordination, which is controlled by the cerebellum. The basal ganglia controls unconscious muscle movements, which is another reason why motor coordination is impaired when under the influence of marijuana.
HowStuffWorks wrote:Marijuana is filled with hundreds of chemicals
Not exactly evidence, but something with such a large amount of different chemicals has a way of interacting with the body in different, possibly harmful, ways.
HowStuffWorks wrote:Problems with memory and learning
Distorted perception
Difficulty with thinking and problem solving
Loss of coordination
Increased heart rate
Anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks
HowStuffWorks wrote:Ongoing studies now show a number of possible symptoms associated with the cessation of marijuana use. These symptoms most commonly include: irritability, nervousness, depression, anxiety and even anger. Other symptoms are restlessness, severe changes in appetite, violent outbursts, interrupted sleep or even insomnia. In addition to these possible physical effects, psychological dependence usually develops because a person's mind craves the high that it gets when using the drug.
HowStuffWorks wrote:Beyond these effects that marijuana has, marijuana smokers are susceptible to the same health problems as tobacco smokers, such as bronchitis, emphysema and bronchial asthma. Other effects include dry-mouth, red eyes, impaired motor skills and impaired concentration. Long-term use of the drug can increase the risk of damaging the lungs and reproductive system, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA). It has also been linked to heart attacks.
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Problems with memory and learning
Distorted perception
Difficulty with thinking and problem solving
Loss of coordination
Increased heart rate
Anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks

beer causes all of these
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