Marijuana debate

stephen10101 · Post by **stephen10101** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:41 pm

I don't think it's a good thing for people to use any drug to relieve stress or deal with hard times in life, whatever drug it may be. No one I know does that, everyone I know that smokes does it for fun. If you do it to relieve stress you get a crazy mental addiction going which could ruin your life. Marijuana will probably never be legal because of the idiots who get that mental addiction going and ruin there lives. I also agree that there isn't too much point in legalizing it, because smokers will smoke it, whether it's legal or not. Legalizing it, in my opinion, will have more pros than cons, though.

OwnZ joO · Post by **OwnZ joO** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:52 pm

Why does it matter that smokers will still smoke whether or not it's legalized, thats like saying(hypothetically if murder wasn't illegal) that we shouldn't make murder illegal because people would do it anyway. Laws should be in place because they are right, not just because that's how they've always been.

stephen10101 · Post by **stephen10101** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:01 pm

Murder is completely different than weed, if we legalized murder the population of the US would be nothing within a short while. I was just saying it really doesn't matter for people who smoke.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:22 pm

Danke would kill me first.

Hawaiian Modder · Post by **Hawaiian Modder** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:12 pm

My friend smokes weed to relieve stress but once he got caught he had to quit and he had no issues at all. It didn't effect him, or at least he held it in enough for me not to notice. I don't think marijuana can cause a state of addiction in your mind unless if you have a real weak mind.

turk645 · Post by **turk645** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:51 am

OwnZ joO wrote: Laws should be in place because they are right, not just because that's how they've always been.

... but isnt the point of this thread to discuss what we think is right? Frankly i hate it when people say something as being right. Anyway back to the subject, as most people have stated i dont care either way because it wont effect me at all. I never used the stuff and dont plan on it.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:16 am

Hawaiian Modder wrote:I don't think marijuana can cause a state of addiction in your mind unless if you have a real weak mind.

Addiction isn't voluntary. Mental 'weakness,' as you call it, isn't voluntary. Different people react differently, and to somehow say someone's brain is inferior because of an involuntary reaction is incredibly idiotic. Resilience to addiction is hardly superiority, it's merely a difference. I don't know where you get off stating that addiction is a sign of weakness.

DarkShallFall · Post by **DarkShallFall** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:19 am

While hight I've never crashed a car or beat my wife and kids. Alcohol is way worse then weed ever was. Although an issue is that if a cop stopped you to see if you where impaired then there would be no way to test on the spot, which i think could cause some issues ;/ mb. Weed doesn't really have that big of an effect if you some to much, you cant overdose on weed.
Happy, Hungry, Sleepy

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:38 am

Hawaiian Modder wrote:I don't think marijuana can cause a state of addiction in your mind unless if you have a real weak mind.

actually very few people want to be addicted and there are so many factors your not considering like ADD/ADHD wich can ake addiction more likely/severe with anything. anything can be addicting from sleeping to not sleeping weight lifting to video games addiction cant be chosen

theycallmechad · Post by **theycallmechad** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:59 am

Ombre wrote: Your assumption is like me saying "All people against legalization are religious believers who only want it to be illegal because their church tells them it's evil."

Actually, in order to compare my statement (question, really) to this, you'd need to word it like this:

"Am I safe to assume that the #1 reason people are against legalization of pot is because they are religious believers who only want it to be illegal because their church tells them it's evil?"

I'm against legalization, but I'm not going to speak ill of those who contrast my views. I was careful to word my previous statement (on the last page) in such a way that I was not generalizing. OF COURSE not everybody who pushes for its legalization are pot smokers. That would be ridiculous to assume so. By saying "the #1 reason," I merely was asking if that is the reason MOST pro-legalization people here (most meaning anything greater than 50%) want it legalized. If I ask about a "#1 reason," there have to be other reasons. Being how we're all different, we all have different reasons.

Finally, have I committed a fallacy? I was unaware that a fallacy could both be a question (asked for informative purposes only) and a non-generalization. I thought you guys would have known me by now...

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:32 am

theycallmechad wrote:I was careful to word my previous statement (on the last page) in such a way that I was not generalizing.

theycallmechad wrote:All I see are people who want it legalized for their own good.

gmp_gmp · Post by **gmp_gmp** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:51 pm

I'm going to chime in here just to give my stance.

I really don't give a fuck what you do with your life and your time, until it starts affecting me or the rest of humanity. It's a "Good For You, yay you did it" sort of thing.

A Few Examples:

Xero · Post by **Xero** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 4:37 pm

[quote="gmp_gmp"]I'm going to chime in here just to give my stance.

I really don't give a *** what you do with your life and your time, until it starts affecting me or the rest of humanity. It's a "Good For You, yay you did it" sort of thing.

A Few Examples:

Cryticfarm · Post by **Cryticfarm** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:50 pm

Hey, if this gets legalized, will malolo get unbanned XD.

Andrew_b · Post by **Andrew_b** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:52 pm

Cryticfarm wrote:Hey, if this gets legalized, will malolo get unbanned XD.

He should but no he wont.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:53 pm

He broke the rules. Changing the rules later doesn't change the fact that he broke the rules when they were there. So no, "he should" not.

Dr.Cox · Post by **Dr.Cox** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:08 pm

Honestly either way it doesn't effect me. First off I don't need the help of "herbs" or "drugs" what ever you want to categorize it as, to help me feel better or motivate myself to do better or to do things. Secondly I am allergic to THC ^__^

IF you take it away make it Illegal people will find a way to get it, because it becomes the "forbidden fruit"

And if it dose become legal people people will just smoke the selves silly then get bored with the drug when it no longer has any effect on them due to the tolerance you build for it.

And Isnt there better thing you can be spening your money on anyway

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:23 pm

Dr.Cox wrote:Honestly either way it doesn't effect me. First off I don't need the help of "herbs" or "drugs" what ever you want to categorize it as, to help me feel better or motivate myself to do better or to do things. Secondly I am allergic to THC ^__^

IF you take it away make it Illegal people will find a way to get it, because it becomes the "forbidden fruit"

And if it dose become legal people people will just smoke the selves silly then get bored with the drug when it no longer has any effect on them due to the tolerance you build for it.

And Isnt there better thing you can be spening your money on anyway

the tolerance actually goes up and down usually first timers or people with "virgin lungs" dont get high their first time

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:37 pm

Dr.Cox wrote:I don't need the help of "herbs" or "drugs" what ever you want to categorize it as, to help me feel better or motivate myself to do better or to do things.

Amen.

I actually brought this up in my photo class with a couple people who sit by me, as they do do the drug, and I asked them why they do it, and the biggest reason was "because it's illegal."

Sure, there will be those who will go crazy and partake in it much more if it is legalized, but I don't think the using percentage would ever drastically shoot up...

DRL333 · Post by **DRL333** » Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:57 pm

shadowkhas wrote:I actually brought this up in my photo class with a couple people who sit by me, as they do do the drug, and I asked them why they do it, and the biggest reason was "because it's illegal."

That's the most retardeded reason to do anything, especialy weed!

Yea, I meant to spell retarded like that.

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