Ghosts, Alien life, Bigfoot type 'mythic' creatures.

Infern0 · Post by **Infern0** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:57 am

I believe it when I see it, and I haven't seen any of these 3 yet.

hiheyhello · Post by **hiheyhello** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:12 am

aliens-100%
mythic-50%( i think the nessy is real/ bigfoot)
gjost-75%, if seen some pretty freaking things happen in my house.

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:34 pm

sangheili wrote:
Danke wrote:
This can be applied to life too.
What makes you say that?
I say this because I am just saying that this comparison of the room and bacteria is probably happening on a larger scale.

I'm saying that you can't just assume that.

No, I do not say earth is perfect for life.

Sorry, I worded that wrong. I meant to say "Who is to say that earth isn't perfect for life?"
In which case, the answer is apparently you.

I'm saying that could be the case, and thus life would be extremely rare, and thus unlikely to be on other planets. Which isn't an idea I find any less believable than the idea of life on other planets. Which is irrelevant, because it's not whether they can or probably do exist for me, it's whether they do exist. I'm not going to believe they exist until it's clear that they in fact do exist.

And about your bird with snake fangs, what you are talking about is a mutation which has occured within a living organism within earth's habitats. This defect could cause it to die out (cannot eat its food properly, mating, etc.) We are dealing with whole new seperate entities.

Well, that's why it's an analogy. The point was the last sentence.
"HOWEVER, just because there are places for them to live, and the idea isn't too implausible (mbmb), doesn't mean they exist, and I have no reason to believe they do."

ie:
"HOWEVER, just because there are places for alien micro-organisms to live, and the idea isn't too implausible (mbmb), doesn't mean that they do exist, and I have no reason to believe they do."

Which is kind of lawl, because I say your room-universe comparison doesn't work because my room isn't like the universe, and you say my bird-alien analogy doesn't work because the birds aren't like alien life.

sangheili · Post by **sangheili** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:53 pm

Danke wrote:
sangheili wrote:
Danke wrote:
This can be applied to life too.
What makes you say that?
I say this because I am just saying that this comparison of the room and bacteria is probably happening on a larger scale.
I'm saying that you can't just assume that.

No, I do not say earth is perfect for life.
Sorry, I worded that wrong. I meant to say "Who is to say that earth isn't perfect for life?"
In which case, the answer is apparently you.

I'm saying that could be the case, and thus life would be extremely rare, and thus unlikely to be on other planets. Which isn't an idea I find any less believable than the idea of life on other planets. Which is irrelevant, because it's not whether they can or probably do exist for me, it's whether they do exist. I'm not going to believe they exist until it's clear that they in fact do exist.

And about your bird with snake fangs, what you are talking about is a mutation which has occured within a living organism within earth's habitats. This defect could cause it to die out (cannot eat its food properly, mating, etc.) We are dealing with whole new seperate entities.
Well, that's why it's an analogy. The point was the last sentence.
"HOWEVER, just because there are places for them to live, and the idea isn't too implausible (mbmb), doesn't mean they exist, and I have no reason to believe they do."

ie:
"HOWEVER, just because there are places for alien micro-organisms to live, and the idea isn't too implausible (mbmb), doesn't mean that they do exist, and I have no reason to believe they do."

Which is kind of lawl, because I say your room-universe comparison doesn't work because my room isn't like the universe, and you say my bird-alien analogy doesn't work because the birds aren't like alien life.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:59 pm

There's no room for respect and civility on the internet!

hollow121314 · Post by **hollow121314** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:23 pm

Veegie wrote:
L0d3x wrote:Ghosts: 100 percent since I've experienced this myself
Complete with indisputable scientific evidence to contradict the obvious analysis of a mental fabrication? Surely.

nice big words. Anyway no one knows for sure about ghosts or mythical creatures but aliens has been proven:

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:27 pm

Hilarious.

hiheyhello · Post by **hiheyhello** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 1:28 pm

i never knew on marz the had mc donalds.

Philly · Post by **Philly** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:59 pm

QI joke:
When the sun explodes, we will all have to go to one of Jupiter's moons. It is thought that we will stop off at other planets along the way. Will there be a guy on Mars trying to sell us RAC insurance?

Dark_Destroyer · Post by **Dark_Destroyer** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:07 pm

If i hadent been for the primeval earth having collided with another planet in it early years the atmosthere here may have been erodded by the solar rays and be much like mars.
that said due to the grand size of the universe i have little trouble comprehending primitive life else where in the universe.

hiheyhello · Post by **hiheyhello** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:10 pm

if you think about, if where alive living in the universe nicely and happily, then if we where created, then that most mean somewhere someplace that we have not seen yet, there must be other life, it could be alien life, or i could be other humans like us, again the space shuttles instead of aliens it could be humans

sangheili · Post by **sangheili** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:26 pm

hollow121314 wrote:http://www.sln.org.uk/geography/images/mars.JPG

We should have known....

jackson117 · Post by **jackson117** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:32 am

i do not belive in them but still get scared of them and think ones going to kill us

ghosts-nope but very scary
aliens-nope(i see grunts
micheal jackson-aaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhhhhh run
mythic creatures-no no but lake ness monster is just a dinosaur

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:30 am

jackson117 wrote:i do not belive in them but still get scared of them and think ones going to kill us

ghosts-nope but very scary
aliens-nope(i see grunts
micheal jackson-aaaaaaaarrrrrrgggghhhhhhhh run
mythic creatures-no no but lake ness monster is just a dinosaur

...What?

And for the record, it's the loch-ness monster.

peta-182 · Post by **peta-182** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:08 am

Ghosts: %100
Aliens: %100
Mythic creatures: %75

I'm pretty sure ghosts exist because some weird things have happened in my house before. I just moved in and was putting everything in my room when my door knob starting shaking and "someone" was banging on the door like they were having a tantrum. When it stopped I looked outside down the hall and no one was there. No one was in the house at the time except for me and my family members were outside moving in a couch. Also, I went in my garage to get a soda one night and I heard someone sigh behind me. It sounded like they were right behind my back. This all happened about a year or two ago so i'm not as freaked out anymore

I'm sure that aliens exist because the universe is freaking huge. We can't be the only intelligent life in the univerese that has been expanding for about 600 billion years.

I don't believe in bigfoot that much, I haven't really payed attention to it. I think the loch ness monster, as stated above, is just a dinosaur that either survived through all those years or was able to breed.

Yodel · Post by **Yodel** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:45 pm

peta-182 wrote:Ghosts: %100
I'm pretty sure ghosts exist because some weird things have happened in my house before.

Weird noises and the like are common occurrences in unfamiliar, old houses.

peta-182 wrote: I just moved in and was putting everything in my room when my door knob starting shaking and "someone" was banging on the door like they were having a tantrum. When it stopped I looked outside down the hall and no one was there. No one was in the house at the time except for me and my family members were outside moving in a couch.

Air currents can be surprisingly strong in houses. If there is a a pressure difference between a corridor and a room, the pressure may fluctuate repeatedly, opening and slamming the door. It happens a lot in my house.

peta-182 wrote: Also, I went in my garage to get a soda one night and I heard someone sigh behind me. It sounded like they were right behind my back. This all happened about a year or two ago so i'm not as freaked out anymore

Many garage doors have pneumatic cylinders to prevent them from closing too forcefully, and the noise that they make can sound an awful lot like a person sighing.

peta-182 wrote: I don't believe in bigfoot that much, I haven't really payed attention to it. I think the loch ness monster, as stated above, is just a dinosaur that either survived through all those years or was able to breed.

The problem that I have with the whole "living plesiosaur" theory for 'Nessy is that a population of Plesiosaurs would not be able to survive for 60 million odd years, because for a species to maintain a genetically safe population, several thousand unique individuals are needed. Otherwise, genetic inbreeding would occur. A similar thing happened with the San 'Shyuum race on High charity.

Ombre · Post by **Ombre** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:59 pm

And it's a proven fact that they would have had to survive for 60 million odd years?

Yodel · Post by **Yodel** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:01 pm

If the theory is that Nessy is a Plesiosaur that survived the mass extinction of the dinosaurs, then yes. Actually, more like 65 odd years. And unless Plesiosaurs can live for 65 million years--which they can't--they would have to breed, for innumerable generations.

Unless you are referencing a Loch Ness monster that was was photographed by humans 65 million years ago

Ombre · Post by **Ombre** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:52 pm

I was more directing to the point that there is no real solid proof thats how long it has been since the dinosaurs went extinct. You can carbon date all the fossils you want, but the results should not be claimed as 100% proof that said object is billions or millions of years old.

All that being said, I am no firm believer in Nessy, it could be real or it could be fake. I wouldn't be shocked at finding either side is true.

Yodel · Post by **Yodel** » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:24 pm

Ombre wrote:I was more directing to the point that there is no real solid proof thats how long it has been since the dinosaurs went extinct. You can carbon date all the fossils you want, but the results should not be claimed as 100% proof that said object is billions or millions of years old.

All that being said, I am no firm believer in Nessy, it could be real or it could be fake. I wouldn't be shocked at finding either side is true.

Aww, come on

The date of the extinction is regarded as scientific fact! It fits in with the ecological timeline.