Modder is busted

StalkingGrunt911 · Post by **StalkingGrunt911** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:33 pm

Mess with the law and the law messes with you. I guess he had it coming.

0m3g4Muff1n987 · Post by **0m3g4Muff1n987** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:07 pm

Lol @Dan. Thank you.

And sorry guys, I didn't think you'd react that strongly.

killarzachary · Post by **killarzachary** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:31 pm

Wow. I didn't think they'd search a persons house for modded 360s.

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:29 pm

Dan!! wrote:
JK-47 wrote:I don't know the guy, but I'm going to say that was totally un-called for. People like him are what back websites like us up. Without modchips and such, where would we be?
Modding Halo PC, maybe?

Everyone knows Halo PC modding is dying... As much as I hate to say it, since that's the Halo version I mod.

Dan!! wrote:I'd say that around, oh I don't know, 100% of the people I know with a modded xbox pirate games. It would be ignorant to think that even most of his customers were getting a chip to mod games.

Got me on that one.

KOMET · Post by **KOMET** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:41 pm

I was reading this thread and I just wanted to post the story
(I think Tural may of already posted this link but just for good measure...)

Full/Official Story here

You know something's wrong with life when you get your modding stuff taken away for selling modded consoles...

I'm also pretty sure that these mod chips did NOT come with illegal BIOS
(aka EvoX, Avalauch) which would make them legal but I'm not
sure about that.

hihi88 · Post by **hihi88** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:36 pm

ok i get wat happened ..but how come every1 here is still doing it. Did he get busted cuz he like ran a freaking buisiness?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:41 pm

hihi88 wrote:ok i get wat happened ..but how come every1 here is still doing it. Did he get busted cuz he like ran a freaking buisiness?

Likely. He was probably selling modding services. Nobody else has had issues with personal use, so it's incredibly unlikely he was just doing it for himself.

shade45 · Post by **shade45** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:05 pm

Wow that sucks Its sad when stuff like this happens to these people. Im just glad I live in Canada, we actually have a modchip.ca store here where I live they sell modchips and pre-modified consoles. I'll try and get some pics next time I drive past it for all you non-believers

KOMET · Post by **KOMET** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:45 pm

shade45 wrote:Wow that sucks Its sad when stuff like this happens to these people. Im just glad I live in Canada, we actually have a modchip.ca store here where I live they sell modchips and pre-modified consoles. I'll try and get some pics next time I drive past it for all you non-believers

That must be cool to have a store that actually carries this modding
hardware so if you need a mod chip or something you can just drive down
there and buy a mod chip.

turk645 · Post by **turk645** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:53 pm

>.< shade you lucky SOB.

at least i live in ohio which is pretty close to canada so if i ever need something i can always pay you a visit

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hihi88 · Post by **hihi88** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:57 pm

Could the same thing happen with a 3ds program?/ What is the worst atht cud happen with max ?

slayer410 · Post by **slayer410** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:42 pm

[quote name='snart']
Almost. It's illegal to sell any item that circumvents copy protection. [/quote]

The law should be -
It's illegal to sell any item specifically manufactured to circumvent copy protection.

An example of this-

Bleach can be used to clean dirty piss as far as drug tests go.
The law says any product specifically manufactured with the sole intent of helping the passing of a drug test is illegal to sell.
What if every manufact. of bleach and provider were raided.

All I can say is wow...

Edit: And to the hihi88, don't admit to pirating.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:12 am

A primary function of a mod chip is that you can bypass the copyright protection. A primary function of bleach is not as you described it. The situation is not the same and your comparison is rather far-fetched.

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:13 am

It's a good job the politicians don't come to you to know what "the law should be"

slayer410 · Post by **slayer410** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:59 am

Tural wrote:A primary function of a mod chip is that you can bypass the copyright protection. A primary function of bleach is not as you described it. The situation is not the same and your comparison is rather far-fetched.

Tural, I'm sorry, what I was trying to say is what if the law was any product manufactured that can be used to clean dirty piss.
Would they remove bleach from the market?

Dan!! · Post by **Dan!!** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:47 pm

Tural wrote:A primary function of a mod chip is that you can bypass the copyright protection. A primary function of bleach is not as you described it.

Maybe it's not like it was in the old days, but the advertised function of modchips and the like was always to play homebrew software and "enhanced firmware" and occasionally "play backups". Well, at least when I ever looked into it.
Have modchip companies put all the pleasantries aside and said "GO DOWNLOAD GAMES"?

Because if they haven't, maybe they can do some betamax-case hax to get out of this mess.

sneakyn8 · Post by **sneakyn8** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:22 pm

i wonder if anything is going to happen to llama.com b/c if so i dont know what id do b/c i do a lot of case modding and when i mess something up i send it to them

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:27 pm

Dan!! wrote:Have modchip companies put all the pleasantries aside and said "GO DOWNLOAD GAMES"?

Because if they haven't, maybe they can do some betamax-case hax to get out of this mess.

You make an interesting point. I suppose we'll have to see how this plays out and what they are charged with.

DWells55 · Post by **DWells55** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:24 am

I'll copy and paste what I said over at X-S:

Cracking down on the illegal sale and distribution of pirated games is 100% fine by me. But cracking down on mod chips themselves is something I disapprove of. I've been considering modding my Wii and 360 for the sake of legitimate backups of my own games. Why? I have a younger brother in my house I share my consoles with. However, he absolutely can't be trusted to handle a game properly. As it stands right now, every time he wants to play a game, I have to be the one to remove the current game from the console and replace it with a new one so nothing gets damaged.

Consumers deserve the right to have backups of their property, especially when that property is data on a reasonably fragile medium. Unless manufacturers want to allow us to run backups, it shouldn't be illegal for me to modify hardware I purchased with a chip I purchased to play copies of games I purchased burned onto blank discs I purchased with a burner that I purchased. This is my hardware - let me do with it what I will whether that be homebrew or backups.