communism?!?! lame

fullmental · Post by **fullmental** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:52 pm

just wanted to see if anyone supports communism, I DO

GametagAeonFlux · Post by **GametagAeonFlux** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:07 am

I think Communism is, in theory, a good idea...it's just never been executed correctly.

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:11 am

Yeah, on paper it sounds almost flawless.

Sgt.Peppers · Post by **Sgt.Peppers** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:24 am

Oh lord...

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:41 am

I can't see why a kid under 15 (assumption) supports communism, I doubt you even fully understand the different political approaches. If you do, then I stand corrected. But judging from yuor signature image and choice of words, I'd say you were too young to understand fully, and say you 'support' it just to be different.

wanksta · Post by **wanksta** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 12:44 am

socialism ftw

(im pretty sure thats the right one...)

Sgt.Peppers wrote:Oh lord...

lawls at religion -don't even try and go there -SGEE sorry just j/k lol\

edit- by ftw i mean for the win. i like socialism better than comunisim.

noxiousraccoon · Post by **noxiousraccoon** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:14 am

wanksta wrote:socialism ftw

Ok, if by ftw you mean "for the win", I say no no sir, no no. Socialism in easier words, is the jacking of my stuff to give to others who dont have it and who are need of it. If by ftw, you mean "fuck the world", I agree. I dont know about yall but today's democrats, which really should consider themselves socialist democrats, absolutely drive me insane. I cant stand picking up my paycheck just to find myself short of money just to give someone their unemployment/welfare/medical check.

And dont even start me on the other democrat created taxes that most of us dont even know about.

RaVNzCRoFT · Post by **RaVNzCRoFT** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:17 am

GametagAeonFlux wrote:I think Communism is, in theory, a good idea...it's just never been executed correctly.

Absolutely.

Read the Communist Manifesto...it's fascinating.

shadowkhas · Post by **shadowkhas** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:46 am

wanksta, I definitely agree...let me use an example that my parents have experienced. They both grew up in Poland in the 1960's and 1970's. Now, they by no means say it was the best form of government, because there still was greed and corruption, so nothing was executed the way it could have been, but they say that pretty much if you EVER had even the slightest pain, be it dental or otherwise, you could just go to the appropriate doctor for absolutely free, and every medical treatment was free. It was a VERY good health care system.
But, because the US is too entrenched in capitalism, you'll never see a decent health care system here provided by the government. Medicare and Medicaid are/are becoming great jokes, but the giant insurance firms and their lobbies definitely won't stand for getting rid of themselves in the name of better care for the people. Capitalism doesn't care about people that much sometimes.

noxiousracoon: I'm making an assumptionm here, but I'm assuming you support a nation that has tax cuts left and right, with the consequence of having a nation possibly more in debt than if they were taxing the populace?

A nearly uniform tax rate is laughable in America. If we taxed the rich more, and shifted our priorities, this COULD be the best government ever. We COULD pull off really great things if the people in power grow a pair and go for the people instead of who gives them $10,000 for their campaign. And then there's the American population, who in general, is completely apathetic, and I'm sure that the founding fathers (whose names just love to get thrown around by conservative Republicans) would be terrified. People don't CARE that their phones are tapped, because "they have nothing to hide." Too sadly, they don't realize that many governments we percieve as "bad" started with small changes and moved to dramatic things...
And in general politics, there is no good side anymore. Democrats are absolutely hand in hand with Detroit, refusing to push for legislation that would REQUIRE good gasoline mileage and efficiency in cars. Branching off of cars now...something also needs to be done about our planet. We've only got this one, last time I checked. The problem is, nobody has their priorities straight...do we want to first go after our oil dependence, which most of life as we know it depends on, or do we want to go to renewable energy, which will cure both that and our environment problem quicker. But, people are mostly concerned with filling up and the pump, so they just go for hybrid vehicles and act concerned about the environment. That's a big pet peeve of mine. UNLESS THE ENERGY SOURCE YOU GET ENERGY FROM IS RENEWABLE, IDIOTS IN HYBRIDS DON'T SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT.
Grr.

I think I'm done.

Philly · Post by **Philly** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:50 am

FleetAdmiralBacon · Post by **FleetAdmiralBacon** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:54 am

Truth is, what with a robotic workforce and the advancements in technology, a Socialist system - both economic and political - would work quite nicely these days. The only thing thing that truly holds Communism back is humanity's need to be better than everyone else. You need incentives to work? You want to be rewarded when you do more work?
The idea of equal work, equal pay, equal benefits is a great one. It would get people off of the streets as well, put them to work where they're best suited, and if such a job can not be found, there will always be a job out there that you can do.

If you want my views on the Socialist system, get me one AIM or MSN or Pan (server will be up in a few minutes, btw)

Xiion · Post by **Xiion** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 8:07 am

Communism???
I smell a bandwagon forming again >_>

Geo · Post by **Geo** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:09 am

Screw Communism.

OwnZ joO · Post by **OwnZ joO** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:31 am

I don't really like the idea of communism, and the reason that it hasn't worked is that absolute power corrupts. Somebody is supposed to be in charge to get communism started, but they always end up corrupting and just keeping it in socialism.

Caboose{SE} · Post by **Caboose{SE}** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:35 am

as Gametag pointed out, in theory it's a good idea. however the way human nature is. it just won't work. not now, not ever. of course the government can force it on people but will it last long? and people most certainly won't stand by and do nothing for ever, nor will everyone be happy.

gh0570fchurch · Post by **gh0570fchurch** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:38 am

Looking at the concept of communism, I would say it's flawless. However, trying to execute it correctly is next to impossible. You need a leader that has no greed and knows how to spread the resources evenly. As you can imagine, that's not so easy.

Alexander · Post by **Alexander** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:47 am

shadowkhas wrote:UNLESS THE ENERGY SOURCE YOU GET ENERGY FROM IS RENEWABLE, IDIOTS IN HYBRIDS DON'T SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT.
Grr.

My family replaced a Nissan Titan with a Prius and are saving an killing on gas, does that make them idiots?
No, it's mainly the people that think they're saving the environment that bug me. -shadowkhas

Xiion · Post by **Xiion** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:22 am

Alexander wrote:
shadowkhas wrote:UNLESS THE ENERGY SOURCE YOU GET ENERGY FROM IS RENEWABLE, IDIOTS IN HYBRIDS DON'T SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT.
Grr.
My family replaced a Nissan Titan with a Prius and are saving an killing on gas, does that make them idiots?

No, but does that have ANYTHING to do with communism?
Get back on topic, Narker.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:26 am

Xiion wrote:No, but does that have ANYTHING to do with communism?
Get back on topic, Narker.

Make sure you make a rude comment towards that part of shadowkhas's post as well.

Xiion · Post by **Xiion** » Sun Aug 05, 2007 11:30 am

Tural wrote:
Xiion wrote:No, but does that have ANYTHING to do with communism?
Get back on topic, Narker.
Make sure you make a rude comment towards that part of shadowkhas's post as well.

kay.

>_>
Just sendin' him my opinion... that's all...