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suicide weapon
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:29 am
by bumlove
I've wanted a weapon of this kind for a while now, press one button and explode, I think it should be quite easy to do, a weapon that spawns an explosive when fired, making it autofire when ready (held), the idea sacrifices the option to hold a secondary weapon because how could you "swap weapon for" when equipping it kills you instantly, on the plus side it should stop double shooters (R R X Y..boom)
I don't want help with making it just want to know who people feel about the idea
what do you think?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:58 am
by neodos
I don't like the idea, sorry but anyway there is an easyer way, just add damage to the trigger reponse jpt!.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:19 am
by bumlove
oh yeah, trigger damage saves cloning a grenade thanks, (I'm not sure that would cause damage to surrounding players/area, oh well experiment)
what don't you like about it neodos? the fact that it sacrifices a holding a second weapon? or the fact it gives players an easy way out when out gunned?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:32 am
by neodos
Both and also I still don't get the point of htis, why do you want to do this, I mean how will be the mod that will have that weapon?
Depends of the gameplay i guess.
Example maybe?
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:00 am
by RedFox4
BR only, shields/no shields, mb mb? thats just what im thinking cuz he said he would do it to stop double shot
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:44 am
by bumlove
there are a few occurrences where I think this may add to the game, the idea isn't to prevent double shooting thats just an added bonus,
Of course for this to be effective in being fair suicide point loss must be on
examples; the enemy has taken a good position and won't move from that point, so you grab an over shield and charge into their strong hold (under heavy fire) and boom! area cleared
the enemy is one point away from winning a slayer match, your shield is down and round a corner comes an enemy, boom! match saved for the moment
someones coming at you with a sword, you have a pistol, what do you do?
A blow yourself up instantly (point loss for you but no gain for the enemy)
B blow yourself up when the swordsman is within explosive range (point lost for suicide, point gain for enemy kill so you break even)
I'll have to play with it, I think instant explosion is too advantageous, maybe a small delay
Anybody else's thoughts
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:17 am
by grimdoomer
A backfiring plasma grenade, so you could stick yourself

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:02 pm
by neodos
Ah you meant a suicide bomb ok, then yeah.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:11 pm
by grimdoomer
Well if you want to kill someone else with in range, you could make the explosion radius bigger. I think it would work well.
Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:10 pm
by RedFox4
grimdoomer wrote:Well if you want to kill someone else with in range, you could make the explosion radius bigger. I think it would work well.
and also increase damage ^^ and u know mb add a sound that yells "for allah!" when u go boom eh? XD
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:17 am
by bumlove
Increasing damage radius in jpt hasn't worked for me to date, how about a modeled pair of smoking MC boots
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:37 am
by RedFox4
bumlove wrote:Increasing damage radius in jpt hasn't worked for me to date, how about a modeled pair of smoking MC boots
i use DotHalo to edit that kinda stuff and i've never had a problem changing damages and that stuff
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:53 am
by bumlove
not damage amounts, just area its inflicted upon, but I've never tried increasing the radius with dothalo hmmmmmm
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:15 pm
by Kewlkyle64
I once thought about a suicide booth. I would have edited the model for the banshee, and placed it where the starting point on most Containment racetracks is. I've experimented with it, you do die the second you go in, but it proved to be rather pointless. Though it was kind of cool.
Just make it for fun, it shouldn't be too hard. Maybe do it on a campaign map and give all the Covenant a suicide weapon. Then you can run through and see how quickly you can beat it when all the Covenant do is kill themselves.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:57 am
by turk645
or better yet make the warthog blow up. Its really fun when playing a game of CTF and one guy goes kamakazi just to protect the flag. Or better yet make the banshee do that.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:43 pm
by bumlove
great idea turk unfortunately warthogs have no place in my map, but I think I'll hang on to this idea for project 2
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:32 am
by turk645

Just make sure you warn the people that the hog blows up or else they will honk the horn and then just yell wtf. You could tell them after you stop laughing.
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:01 am
by sneakyn8
when i first read this i thought you meant like for machinima you would pull the trigger and her would turn the gun on himself
Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:24 pm
by odimus
i like the idea of a suicide weapon bcuz its like in Call of Duty with the grenade where u pull the pin and hold it long enough u die and sometimes gettings kills of it is awesome.