halo 2 xbox modding sort of annoys me :/

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halo 2 xbox modding sort of annoys me :/

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It's so dumb that even after all these years, we don't have full access to halo 2 like we do for halo ce! It's so lame :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: !!!!
modding halo 2 for xbox isn't really modding at all! It's more like trying to trick the game into doing stuff, which we never had to do in hce. for example, we have to clone chunk ITMC metas and do a bunch of weird shit to it just to add objects to a map......theres alot of other things too, but i have a writers block right now....I don't mean to dis any h2 modders, because believe me, my maps that i have released recently sucked so much more ass..but i just wanted to say that for some reason.....
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If you don't like modding halo 2 leave this site, and we really don't care what you think.

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I don't think we ever will be able to modify Halo 2 like we can CE. Custom Edition was specifically built for the purpose of custom content, whereas Halo 2 was built the complete opposite way. I think we're pretty lucky we can do what we're doing now with H2.
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antomic wrote:It's so dumb that even after all these years, we don't have full access to halo 2 like we do for halo ce! It's so lame :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: !!!!
modding halo 2 for xbox isn't really modding at all! It's more like trying to trick the game into doing stuff, which we never had to do in hce. for example, we have to clone chunk ITMC metas and do a bunch of weird **** to it just to add objects to a map......theres alot of other things too, but i have a writers block right now....I don't mean to dis any h2 modders, because believe me, my maps that i have released recently sucked so much more ass..but i just wanted to say that for some reason.....
Yea well you don't really have to tell us tat you hate halo2 so...
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i never said i hate halo 2....
I hate MS because they're always hiding their nuts from us, but other than that, i think the game is alright. I just wish we could do more...
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Leave, seriously we enjoy modding the game, just because you don't and think MS is shit for not making it modable then please leave this site.
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antomic wrote:i never said i hate halo 2....
I hate MS because they're always hiding their nuts from us, but other than that, i think the game is alright. I just wish we could do more...
You're dumb, they did the best they can to prevent us from modding H2, which they think will ultimately lead to XBL cheating, and they are correct. If they had made it like CE, just think of the cheating we would see today. Lucky most of those with an intellect low enough to cheat are usually to dumb to figure out how to get around what MS has tried to prevent.
Also, you don't have to spawn everything through itmc.. we can spawn them through the proper platelet of the object, just like Bungie does when making maps. Pretty much the only big thing we have yet to figure out is BSP havoc data, for custom BSP, and custom PHMO.
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in retrospect, there are a few things we canot do but that is overshadowed by the amount we can do. on occasions, iv seen better mods for Halo 2 then i have ever seen for Halo CE. Both games have had their greats but i think that even with our halo 2 restrictions, we make pretty damn good mods. I am very pleased with the amount of stuff we can do. Ya never know, we may discover much more when Halo 2 vista is cracked wide open, wider then it is now. so dont diss halo 2 modding, it is still my favorite game to mod and a favorite to many others. Am i right or am i right?
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Tural wrote:MICROSOFT IS THE DEVIL!
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ROFLAO hahahaha omg thats funny any ways im very happy with what we can do as said we can't do custom bsp havoc yet until vista is cracked as Scoliosis said wide open i never really got into ce and probably never will halo 2 is where i started and halo 2 is where i'll end with all the stuff we can do now we can make maps that i bet bungie there selves would look at and say dam we should of made a map like that and we don't always just use itmc and clone chucks for the scrn tag and place them " although thats the easiest " to make it as close as possible to bungies we can build the machs scen blocs ect through there proper tags and as mentioned if halo 2 was as easy to do stuff as people say ce is then live would suck horribly for all the cheaters and yes alot of them are just retards who think they can do something cool but when a barrier gets in between them and modding for cheating they wait till someone shows them how because they don't know how to get around it
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antomic wrote:It's so dumb that even after all these years, we don't have full access to halo 2 like we do for halo ce! It's so lame :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: !!!!
modding halo 2 for xbox isn't really modding at all! It's more like trying to trick the game into doing stuff, which we never had to do in hce. for example, we have to clone chunk ITMC metas and do a bunch of weird **** to it just to add objects to a map......theres alot of other things too, but i have a writers block right now....I don't mean to dis any h2 modders, because believe me, my maps that i have released recently sucked so much more ass..but i just wanted to say that for some reason.....
he does make a very good point no matter how dumb he sounds
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Heh, I just noticed that thesedays I always skip over 'newbymodder's posts when reading a topic :? You really need to start using fullstops and commas man...
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antomic wrote:i never said i hate halo 2....
I hate MS because they're always hiding their nuts from us, but other than that, i think the game is alright. I just wish we could do more...
You're dumb, they did the best they can to prevent us from modding H2, which they think will ultimately lead to XBL cheating, and they are correct. If they had made it like CE, just think of the cheating we would see today.
Hmm, I wouldn't say that. If that were true then why leave us the file-table, un-obfusticated class names and un-obfusticated string tables? As for your bit on cheating, I do remember a time when cheaters pretty much owned MM..

I agree with antomic to a degree, but making such topics is pointless; if you have a problem with the progress made, why not go help by researching more...
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Tural wrote:MICROSOFT IS THE DEVIL!
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honestly i dont think the maps are open so we can mod them.

it has more to do with the way you customize the gametype in the mainmenu. such as adding wepons and vehicles. exmple on coag there are tank options in the MM but no tank spawns in the map. cuz the MM uses the empty chunks for it.

honeslt though h2x modding is really good right now. with the release of h2v we may soon have custom bsp's. were almost to the whole functionality as CE is. give or take a few things. and we dont have to use itmc to trick the map. we have machine pallet.
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When SOMEONE >_> <_< >_> Releases a application that injects PERFECT models into halo 2, along with collision and perhaps PMHO then they won't only get a big hug from me, but will also make it possible to make the worlds ORSMist mods for halo 2 >_> I mean, think about it...
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actually, i can't do the coll tool, i can never save it right, even made a topic and another guy coudln't either. the phmo, i can't understand it
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