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is there anyonw working on how to make it that anything modders see and do non-modders or ppl who dont have that map can?

say like soccer mounds- make them see the bsp change, the soccer ball, the vehiicles, goal post ect? i dunno if thats happenin but i want to quit modding halo and rest in peace only when i try a mod where modders can see and do everything... sounds impossible but i remember when i quit modding for a while ai mods and scripting wasn't dicovered... we've gone far.. that would be by far the hardest thing to do.. but i just want to know if anyone is workin on it

People without the mod can't see complex things.

JK-47 wrote:People without the mod can't see complex things.

becuz they're stupid

xserre wrote:

JK-47 wrote:People without the mod can't see complex things.

becuz they're stupid

They are stupid.

xserre wrote:

JK-47 wrote:People without the mod can't see complex things.

becuz they're stupid

o..k...

xserre wrote: becuz they're stupid

hmmm

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Ibelive the reson people cant see complexe things(like custom made items) is becaus of the globals.globals say you shoot out cheease wheals they wount see them becaus they dount have that in there globalssotherefor for them otherthan effects (like damage) witch isstill normal tags are just missing to them. but what you cando is use any tags from the game (like as in shooting the giant soccer ball i belive)

Let me break it down even more. Major changes that effect your map don't effect theirs, the only reason minor changes work is it forces their xbox through system link to read your info. Major settings that YOUR xbox makes on its own cannot be effected because your xbox is the one generating it.

An example would be, your playing in someones room right? well enable something like no barriers, and have them walk forward into the barrier, they will not be able to get through becuase their xbox is forcing them to load the map it has provide such as collisions and abilitys. Now tell them to hold forward and press standby on their modem for just a few seconds and take it off. They are now through the barrier, Why? becuase their xbox lost temporary connection to yours letting your envirement to take FULL control of their absent connection. When they take it off standby they will be through the barrier but can no longer pass back into the map without the same method because their xbox is fighting yours. I know I know I broke it down preschool style and any pro modder would look at my text and say WTF? but I hope it made since for the simpler members.

So now we understand why map differences cannot be established through system link lets explain why added stuff wont work either.

soccer mounds was made through adding new machines to the map. This one is even more simple for me to explain. In your xbox you have the soccer mounds map which anyone with the raw map doesnt.

so heres your map normal
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And here is theres

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any time you ADD something that does not already exist to your map your map will look like this

----- (5)

and here is theres

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Why? becuase theyre map does not have the required data added. thus they will be missing that extra - meaning it will not exist in their maps. thus they cannot see it and never will be able to see it unless they add another - to their map making it modded.

In turn you expect a miracle to happen where someone invents some magic program that forces everyone to see added material by magically forcing their very unmagical xbox into downloading your magical map. Its a nice dream but it will never happen.