amazing the things you come up with when you're bored...

dazzajay · Post by **dazzajay** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:44 pm

Hmmm, i know nothing about that, i think Snaku would be able to awnser that......

I have also updated the RAAF (Royal Australian Air Force) skin of the X-17 Raptor... (i even put the X-17 Tags on it)

heres some picts...

Snaku · Post by **Snaku** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:05 am

Doom2 wrote:I did find it really fun to drive along and shoot a ghost with my warthog and whatch it flip over me .I will try the turret thing and update once I get it going.

-Doom

Edit: Ok I went to the smg in insolence anf changed the first person offset X to 3 and there is nothing different . I tryed changing it to 5 and still nothing when I fire.

What can I do?

-Doom

Changing X should've made the proj fire from further back. Y would move it sideways, and Z up and down. There didn't seem to be rotation.
So, what I would try is swapping the hog's turret for a turret we know can be controlled by the driver. First you should try changing the seat in the hog's turret to whatever the scorpion turret has as its seat and see if that gives you control, but I dunno if that works. If that doesn't work, on to plan B: giving it a tank turret. Go to the hog's hlmt--variation (leave it on 0, which is default)--unknown 1--dependencies. This will bring up the vehicle for the turret (which is its own vehicle, btw-that's for anybody reading who doesn't already know, not necessarily for you, Doom). Swap it for the tank turret. Then rotate and reposition the marker--you know the rest. Go to the weap tag for the turret and make the necessary changes (RoF--all that--give it your smg proj you made or just make a new one--or even just replace its weap with your smg. Better yet, keep the turret's weap, null out the first proj, and change the second one to your force one. That way you can keep the primary trigger for another weapon which you can attach to the horn.)
Let me know how it all works out.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:38 am

snaku wrote:
Doom2 wrote:I did find it really fun to drive along and shoot a ghost with my warthog and whatch it flip over me .I will try the turret thing and update once I get it going.

-Doom

Edit: Ok I went to the smg in insolence anf changed the first person offset X to 3 and there is nothing different . I tryed changing it to 5 and still nothing when I fire.

What can I do?

-Doom
Changing X should've made the proj fire from further back. Y would move it sideways, and Z up and down. There didn't seem to be rotation.
So, what I would try is swapping the hog's turret for a turret we know can be controlled by the driver. First you should try changing the seat in the hog's turret to whatever the scorpion turret has as its seat and see if that gives you control, but I dunno if that works. If that doesn't work, on to plan B: giving it a tank turret. Go to the hog's hlmt--variation (leave it on 0, which is default)--unknown 1--dependencies. This will bring up the vehicle for the turret (which is its own vehicle, btw-that's for anybody reading who doesn't already know, not necessarily for you, Doom). Swap it for the tank turret. Then rotate and reposition the marker--you know the rest. Go to the weap tag for the turret and make the necessary changes (RoF--all that--give it your smg proj you made or just make a new one--or even just replace its weap with your smg. Better yet, keep the turret's weap, null out the first proj, and change the second one to your force one. That way you can keep the primary trigger for another weapon which you can attach to the horn.)
Let me know how it all works out.

Edit: Nevermind

stupid me

-Doom

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:07 am

Ahhhhhemmm

Drumroll please

Well I didn't get the tank turret thing to work yet because I have it firing to high, but when I set my primary weapon for the hog (the horn) to a rocket, I would go off a jump and fire and then

I would go fliping forward really strong for somereason and go 2-4 times the normal distance. However there is a catch

. If you are running around chasing a ghost or some other vehicle or person and you fire the rocket your warthog will kind of jump up and do a spin and you mostlikely will not land back on your tires. So it works great for jumps but not to good to use on ground which is good. The tank turret is fun though =D , If I fire the machine gun with L I can point it at people and shoot so they can't get close to me in my hog, due to the force added.

I will edit this post once I fix the tank turret.

-Doom

Edit: well some bad news =P. I found out you can't shoot your vehicle with your turret

. After trying several different hights for the proj spawn I found that the bulltes go right through my hog

.

I am tweaking something else right now to see if it can help =D.

-Doom

Snave · Post by **Snave** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:15 am

I think some of those hogs are looking great, keep up the good work guys.

Snaku · Post by **Snaku** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:31 am

Doom2 wrote:Edit: well some bad news =P. I found out you can't shoot your vehicle with your turret . After trying several different hights for the proj spawn I found that the bulltes go right through my hog .

No. You're not trying to hit yourself. You're trying to make an actual booster, just like when people turn the sentinel beam into a jetpack. You want to turn the turret (or whatever you're using) around so it points backward. It seems to me that these force-related boostings only work when something isn't touching the ground, though. Like, in Moon Base, you have to jump before you fire your sentinel beam at the ground and then it lifts you. Also they had plasma 'nades that'd launch you all kinds of ridiculously high, but you had to be in the air when they went off or nothing. They'd also set it so the vehicles responded more to force, but again, it only applied to the ghost and banshee, since they're off the ground.

dazzajay · Post by **dazzajay** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:38 am

Snave wrote:I think some of those hogs are looking great, keep up the good work guys.

i think i speak for me, Snaku and Doom2 when i say thanks for the support.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:30 am

snaku wrote:
Doom2 wrote:Edit: well some bad news =P. I found out you can't shoot your vehicle with your turret . After trying several different hights for the proj spawn I found that the bulltes go right through my hog .
No. You're not trying to hit yourself. You're trying to make an actual booster, just like when people turn the sentinel beam into a jetpack. You want to turn the turret (or whatever you're using) around so it points backward. It seems to me that these force-related boostings only work when something isn't touching the ground, though. Like, in Moon Base, you have to jump before you fire your sentinel beam at the ground and then it lifts you. Also they had plasma 'nades that'd launch you all kinds of ridiculously high, but you had to be in the air when they went off or nothing. They'd also set it so the vehicles responded more to force, but again, it only applied to the ghost and banshee, since they're off the ground.

AHA! I knew I was doing something wrong then. I was trying to hit myself with a smg projectile that I had uped the force on which would hit me and make me go forwards

. I will try what you said just now about the sentinal beam. I know about how people make jetpacks and stuff out of them, I have played moon stronghold before

. Ok I am going to try to fix this now and set the setninal beam to fire the oppisite way of which I am going IF I can because I don't want to be turning around in mid air to fire this back wards.

I will update later

-Doom

hellknight · Post by **hellknight** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:08 pm

Wow That looks insane man really good job on it i must say congrats thats some sick vehicle u made.

dazzajay · Post by **dazzajay** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:11 am

hi all, Dan the man here again showing off my latest Texture (sorry for the Lowrez shots, stupid USB cap card didnt wanna go no higher today.)

Its the Soviet Russia X-17 Raptor.

i know its not my best skin, but it did only take 5 mins to make.

SyrinEldarin · Post by **SyrinEldarin** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 6:36 am

You should've hexxed it so that it says Hold X to Pilot Raptor

. That is pretty sweet, though.

dazzajay · Post by **dazzajay** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 7:46 am

SyrinEldarin wrote:You should've hexxed it so that it says Hold X to Pilot Raptor . That is pretty sweet, though.

well i got this app for changing text, Alius Bos V1.1, but it glitches on that map, BUT if i open a stock Coag, it works fine, (i should have changed the text before i injected the LS) bah, dosent matter anyways. (im working on a few more textures also)

SyrinEldarin · Post by **SyrinEldarin** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:11 am

You could use Alius Bos, yea, but just hex it. Search for the string "to drive Warthog" and then just change it (don't use backspace though, that messes stuff up. Just use space)

dazzajay · Post by **dazzajay** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:36 am

cools, i shall hunt a hex proggie now

xXxCocoFangxXx · Post by **xXxCocoFangxXx** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:28 am

Very Cool! I want those models!! Are you gonna have a download for them soon?

dazzajay · Post by **dazzajay** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:35 am

the Raptor design is Snaku's and if he says yea then expect a .SPPF (only one problem, i signed up for a Files Forum account a while back, and its still not activated)

xXxCocoFangxXx · Post by **xXxCocoFangxXx** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 9:45 am

Send a PM to BEEF!!! He will activate your account for you. He did it for me. Also I hope a patch comes out for the model.

VoYdE · Post by **VoYdE** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:04 am

If you want i can host it at teamhlo, we only accept good mods and i think this one is up top

the download would be on our downloads section not the file forums

dazzajay · Post by **dazzajay** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 10:18 am

as i said, i will have to check it over with Snaku and put it in a fresh map.... (theres a lot of junk and other F*d up stuff in that Coag)

Snaku · Post by **Snaku** » Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:06 pm

Dude, I've already given you a green light on whatever you want to do with it. I am totally not selfish with my discoveries and honestly, I didn't do THAT much here. Most of it was just reading your posts and going "Hmm..." then experimenting. Like, I discovered breaking off bones and stuff, but it was your idea to make a flight hog. Then it was your idea to add wings--all I did was slap on a longsword instead of going for a remodel. If anything, I should be asking your permission to use the thing.
Oh, and hexxing the name is really easy. Like, I was terrified to even touch hex, and I kept looking for the program that would make it easy to change names... couldn't find it. Finally broke down and hexed. It was nothing. I use a proggie called hex workshop, but I can't remember where I found it.