Some information on the *unused* tag types

[DarkMetal]

Well, after working with Guerilla and Sapien alot here recently (the ones from the HEK, not the Halo 2 ones), I decided to take a quick browse through the halo 2 map structure... And I came upon the area where the supposedly *unused* tag types are. Noticing the way they were arranged, I looked at sapien, and sure enough... it's the scenario heirarchy list.

Here's an example:

piqemetiejbo would actually be:

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- Mission
  - Objects
    - Items
       Equipment

Also, I noticed some quite funny things about the compiled name of the tag types. For instance, comments ended up being the tag type " /**/ ". If you program, you would know that that is a comment. Also, either the Game data or Cluster data sections ended up being $#!+, which is symbals for the curse equivalent of "crap". Funny, funny, lol.

I'm pretty sure anyone up there with iron_forge, xbox7887, poke, tycko and anothony already knew this, but who knows...

Feedback, anyone?

[shade45]

I've noticed that before but never understood what the point of those "Tag Types" were. Now I know

Nice find

[xzodia]

umm wat?

[xbox]

I think you mean xbox7887 but im sure the symbols have something to do with what the tag is for, like i think water is $

[-DeToX-]

Cool job finding it out.

[DarkMetal]

I think you mean xbox7887 but im sure the symbols have something to do with what the tag is for, like i think water is $

Yea, I meant xbox7887. And I don't think $ is for water.

$ - S
# - H
! - I
+ - T

Although there is a possibility that that might be the material type filters...

I'll have to do a bit more research on it to find out how that whole section works, but right now I have a general idea.

[DarkMetal]

I apologize for the double post, but I managed to throw an app together that pulls the heirarchy data out of the map and arranges it in a treeview.

http://halo-forge.net/files/halo/TestHaloApp.rar

[xbox7887]

I believe TheTyckoMan released something similar on haloplugins a while back ;P

[DarkMetal]

Yea, he told me after I posted the link to the program. My memory from back then is a little fuzzy, so I don't remember much from that "era".

[kornman00]

piqemetiejbo would actually be:

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- Mission
  - Objects
    - Items
       Equipment

Its just object->item->equipment.

Its just a table that isn't even used by a retail game describing all the group tags (and any parent relationships they may have) in numerical sequence.

AFAIK, the wacky group tags you see in that listing are just for the old versions of various tag groups (ie '*cen' is the previous version of the scenery tag group)