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radiosity failure? is that even possible!
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:42 pm
by inferno
everytime i try too run radiosity in sapien i get a error saying
"radiosity failed you may have degenerater trianlges in map check de bug file" or something like that.
i cant figure out what is causing this because
1. there is no debug file and no .wrl file too import
2. there were NO error in tool whatso ever.
so... wtf? any anwers would be apreciated

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:00 pm
by striderdude
Dont copy me.
Run tool again. If it says nothing, go into your 3ds max or whatevr you use, and look around for it. If you cant find it, restart your map.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:02 pm
by inferno
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at least i backed it up before i built the building and it kiled my radioisty thing.
oh and lol i was going too quote you on that joke but i couldnt find the post

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:02 pm
by crackcocaine
Yeah sorry I wasn't any help, I was gunna say restart your map, but you probably wouldn't of liked that for an answer.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:08 pm
by inferno
oh yeah sapien said something else too let me check...
<minute later>
it said after degenerate triangles
triangles with bad uvs
ive never heard of that error in my entire life. and i have 200 fucking posts!
and since i havent been offtopic all day
- crack i think il send you a freinds request on XBL just got my 360 and i need some freinds too play Gears of War Co-Op with.. i cant beat the insane difficulty alone.

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:28 pm
by crackcocaine
yeah add me, but my 360 broke, 2 days after I got it. I'm getting a new one monday, but I don't have gears of war, yet.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:35 pm
by striderdude
Inferno wrote:oh yeah sapien said something else too let me check...
<minute later>
it said after degenerate triangles
triangles with bad uvs
ive never heard of that error in my entire life. and i have 200 **** posts!
and since i havent been offtopic all day
- crack i think il send you a freinds request on XBL just got my 360 and i need some freinds too play Gears of War Co-Op with.. i cant beat the insane difficulty alone.

Same thing. Restart. TRY THIS FIRST. Delete your UVW map, then add another one. Then fix your degenerate triangles.
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:10 am
by metkillerjoe
I've encountered degenerate triangles before. I've heard that it was related to smoothing groups (wrong smoothing group here or there).
Since it has to do with lighting and not positioning of the bitmaps on the geometry, I would not think it would have anything to do with any kind of UVW map.
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:49 pm
by inferno
1. as i said above there was
NO errors in tool saying degenerate triangles and
NO .wrl debug file.
2. i did not say UVW i said UVS that is not a typo. Sapein said i had a bad UVS ... what ever the fuck that is.... something i guess.
3. Im not restarting this map i have a back up.
4. Smoothing groups could be causing this i think ill try that

thank you.
5. Crack my 360
mutilated my GOW disk and it dont work anymore

which sucks ass. But when you get your new 360 download the lost planet online demo and we can play that. it kicks ass.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:48 am
by crackcocaine
What do you mean by mutilated? Like when my 360's disc drive broke when I took the disk out it sorta had melted plastic on the disc, but it came right off. I'm getting my 360 sunday, which is tomorrow and I'll dl the demo for sure.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 6:56 pm
by adumass
degenerate triangles are bad uvw mapping like a texture that is stretched i think..
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:36 pm
by inferno
i thought degenerate trianlges is when a polygon goes threw another poly gon and then tool goes WTF! AHH HELP ME!!!!!! when you build your bsp cause it cant make collision go through collision
and i think im right.
mainly cause streatching a texture is somehting i do all the time and i have fuxing problem with that.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:59 pm
by adumass
well sometimes it is the mapping.. like if sapien says it during radiosity plus you have no errors about it in tool. Does it say anything about bad uvws also?
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:13 pm
by inferno
it said something about bad uvs not uvw
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:19 pm
by adumass
oh thats what i meant just forgot exactly what it says its probably the textures then.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:31 pm
by inferno
ok... well thats still weird cause what caused this error was i built a building... weird...
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:32 pm
by adumass
Well the mapping on the building somewhere is messed up.
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:36 pm
by inferno
are you serious... cause i deleted the building thinking that it had degenerate triangles in it!!!! god damit !!

im retarded!!!
-edit-
lol i had a back up
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ill retry this tommarow