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mod, may need a team?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:42 pm
by dilinator
when (and if) the hek comes out, i would like to start a new mod, a proper one, im a good coder and general map builder but i have big limitations, one being i havent got an artistic mind and cant model or build good maps.
my idea is, before reach was 0wn3d, the spartans did some test missions against the covenant, the spartans were allowed to use (beta) untested guns to combat them, and as a result, new guns are going to be used, you can play as covenant or as spartans, using pelicans, wraiths, and if possible, the covenant dropship. because the armour for the spartans is going to be different than mcs, ill need moddelers, for the weapons and mappers maybe?
im not sure exactly what the editing kit can do but if it is possible, creating a new game mode might work??
so what do you think of my idea and does anybody want to help me?
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:59 pm
by XwitX
dilinator i would be honored to be on a mod team with you. I can only work alot on the weekends though. Maybe i should tell you a little about myself.
1) I live in Indiana and I'm 14 years old.
2) I know basic duplication and map rebuilding using HMT. (I have no skinning ability at all though)
3) I know how to do the basics with a hex editor like swapping values and editing the meta of certain objects.
4) I know how to use Sparkedit to import tags and create interesting level dynamics.
Well this is about all of my modding capability. I hope you consider me.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:56 am
by dilinator
wow, so much help!! (honestly) loads of people on the GB forums are willing to help as well, now we just need the flipping hek !!! ive got a guy who is starting on a covanent assault ship, for one of the levels!
i have some faith in ms to bring out the hek within the next month
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:52 am
by dilinator
ok, new ideas flooding in, firstly, this is going to be pre-halo, so older human weapons, prototype human weapons (only available to spartans)
covenant will have same style
fighter planes, for humans, will fly like banshees
if the hek allows, have 2 different teams, not just redvs blue but covenant vs spartans (maybe it can be done now, maybe instead of having red mcs, replace red with the model of an elite, could it be done, does anybody want to try it?)
pre-pelican, i dunno, maybe a different skin??
and if the hek allows the changing of the source code of the code or even making a whole new separate gametype, then have proper missions such as
slaughter the enemy (lol basic)
capture the blueprints, take the blueprints and take them back to base, the covenant defend.
protect the ai, a spartan has the suit with the ai, if he dies then the covenant win, get the spartan to the control room of the ship to win.
blow the ship, get into the covenant ship, assault the control room, set self destruct, then run the hell out to the escape route, the covenant have to defend and stop them from getting away (hell, killing lots of spartans is better than losing a ship!)
anyways, this all depends on the hek, except for the new weapons!
the new weapons will need a modeler, which i cant do, could somebody help me?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:13 am
by New Age
Well Im good at skinning... but you should ask beastman to help you do the modeling
and for skinning i would reccomend Quaglinoman.. we all know that he is the |337_5|<1|\||\|3|2! (leet skinner!)
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:54 pm
by xbox_rocker5
sounds awsome hope it is able to be done. But i like the idea.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:08 pm
by XwitX
Dilinator do you have web page that we can plan our mods at?
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:49 pm
by gmp_gmp
sounds like fun... for the blue prints u can re-model the flag and re-skin with what we currently have

, but even better with the HEK,
i might be in

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:26 pm
by spartan-117
that sounds a little too much for me but if u do end up making it ill help if i can
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:36 pm
by DHG-OVERKILL
If you need a cameraman for mod movies or mod screen shots or just a tester let me know i got fraps and good gfx

im avalible nearly all the time 24/7 almost

if you need me give us a shout at
coolwarrior2k@hotmail.com
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:17 pm
by HunterXI
gmp_gmp wrote:sounds like fun... for the blue prints u can re-model the flag and re-skin with what we currently have

, but even better with the HEK,
i might be in

best not to start thinking about how we can direct this with HEK, we still aren't completely sure what it can and can't do. and we also don't know when it'll be released; could be today or next year

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:18 am
by dilinator
well, im not gonna start this mod until the hek comes out, and that is pretty much final, im hoping this to be the first PROPER mod to come out when the hek comes out.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:02 am
by HunterXI
dilinator wrote:well, im not gonna start this mod until the hek comes out, and that is pretty much final, im hoping this to be the first PROPER mod to come out when the hek comes out.
lol... I cant begin to explain how many noob mods we will get with HEK... and how many questions we will get about how to use it

Re: mod, may need a team?
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:29 am
by MasterNeoChief
dilinator wrote:when (and if) the hek comes out, i would like to start a new mod, a proper one, im a good coder and general map builder but i have big limitations, one being i havent got an artistic mind and cant model or build good maps.
my idea is, before reach was 0wn3d, the spartans did some test missions against the covenant, the spartans were allowed to use (beta) untested guns to combat them, and as a result, new guns are going to be used, you can play as covenant or as spartans, using pelicans, wraiths, and if possible, the covenant dropship. because the armour for the spartans is going to be different than mcs, ill need moddelers, for the weapons and mappers maybe?
im not sure exactly what the editing kit can do but if it is possible, creating a new game mode might work??
so what do you think of my idea and does anybody want to help me?
I ope you read the book properly because that's not the same story I read in the fall of Reach!
*SPOILERS(BOOK)*
The Spartan's old suit was the same, only without shield.
They copied the Jackall shield technic in the year 2552, just before Reach was glassed.
As for the weapons, There were no Beta weapons for the marines.
and Covenant thing, there was only a ground battle at Sigma Octanus and Reach
oh yeah, *end spoilers*
So... It doesn't completely mete your story, but awesome idea!
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:48 am
by HunterXI
hmm... I dont remember anything about beta guns either... if you are talking about the part where John, Linda and someone else board a disabled ship to destroy a memory chip, they didn't use beta guns...
but I thought they got the shield tech a few years before 2552... it was when the Covie attacked the Sigma Octanis system, right? and I believe that was before 2552...
and yes, the armor looked the same... there are only minor differences between the set he has now and the set without shielding besides the shields...
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:39 pm
by New Age
no master neo chief is right
there were beta weapons
and armor was the same only shields were copied off of the jakals