A Question

Dimentio · Post by **Dimentio** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:45 pm

I am currently working on two new campaign mods, but they involve some biped swapping. Problem is that I can't seem to figure out how to get the bipeds (Elites, Cyborgs, Grunts and Jackals) Into a dropship/pelican. I swapped the Covenant with Cyborgs and Marines, and the Humans with Elites, Jackals and Grunts. I can't seem to get any of them into a dropship of any kind. Any ideas?

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:04 pm

howd you swap them?

Dimentio · Post by **Dimentio** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:26 pm

I took all of their codes (EXAMPLE:1907D34) and I copied and pasted them into text documents and pasted them into the other biped's spot. Also, how can I make the energy sword work?

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:38 pm

the energy sword will only work for the right actv tags really, if you give it to anything else w/o changing how that AI acts, then it'll stay back and shoot at the enemy. The reason there are seperate AI tags for the sword holders is because they are beserking and charge directly at the enemy.

What you did was a meta swap, thats never good really. You should learn to swap dependencies using HHT or preferably eschaton. I'd get used to using eschaton, it may seem a bit harder now but in the very near future it'll be much easier to use with an upcoming new release, and the things I've seen with this program are infinitely times better then anything using HMT.

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:50 am

DeadHamster wrote:the energy sword will only work for the right actv tags really, if you give it to anything else w/o changing how that AI acts, then it'll stay back and shoot at the enemy. The reason there are seperate AI tags for the sword holders is because they are beserking and charge directly at the enemy.

What you did was a meta swap, thats never good really. You should learn to swap dependencies using HHT or preferably eschaton. I'd get used to using eschaton, it may seem a bit harder now but in the very near future it'll be much easier to use with an upcoming new release, and the things I've seen with this program are infinitely times better then anything using HMT.

Second'd

WaeV · Post by **WaeV** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:19 pm

I should probably get used to dealing with eschaton. When I joined, HMT was still in development.

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:31 pm

lol yeah, the new eschaton can kick HMT around the schoolyard.

Philly · Post by **Philly** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:49 am

Yeah, but HMT has a big brother called damage plugins and map rebuilding. He also scores with the girls more, because he's better looking.

Anyway, to answer the question, don't swap meta. It's much easier and better to swap dependencies instead. If you can't get some bipeds into certain seats of vehicles, rename the seats. For example, if you name the pelican driver seat something like 'W-driver', you can fly it.

guysullavin · Post by **guysullavin** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:56 am

yea, i had troubles with something similar back when i was working on a mod where you were a covenant elite and you were against marines, i later found out that also made cut scenes and map triggers screw up big time. except i switched the cov drop ship for the pelican and vice versa
never got it working though

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:56 pm

Philly wrote:Yeah, but HMT has a big brother called damage plugins and map rebuilding. He also scores with the girls more, because he's better looking.

Anyway, to answer the question, don't swap meta. It's much easier and better to swap dependencies instead. If you can't get some bipeds into certain seats of vehicles, rename the seats. For example, if you name the pelican driver seat something like 'W-driver', you can fly it.

Eschaton is big brother with map rebuilding.

WaeV · Post by **WaeV** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:19 pm

Eschaton IS big brother? Lol, better stay away.

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:19 pm

Philly wrote:Yeah, but HMT has a big brother called damage plugins and map rebuilding. He also scores with the girls more, because he's better looking.

I disagree with everything except the UI, I love the blue.

Plugins are interchangeable within escahton, if it works with another program, it works with eschaton.

If you've seen what eschaton does with rebuilding, you would cry at all the time you spent PMI-ing. Your project would've been done in about 3 months tops, no lie.

Dimentio · Post by **Dimentio** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:56 pm

Um.. I don't use a Mac (I pray to God that someday I will) so I don't know what you're getting at.

WaeV · Post by **WaeV** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:58 pm

If you've seen what eschaton does with rebuilding

I've been messing with esch for the past half-hour or so and can't figure out how to get it to batch extract, let alone rebuild. The option is greyed out.

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:00 pm

WaeV wrote:
If you've seen what eschaton does with rebuilding
I've been messing with esch for the past half-hour or so and can't figure out how to get it to batch extract, let alone rebuild. The option is greyed out.

we are talking about the new one, which seems to have run aground right now :<

WaeV · Post by **WaeV** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:01 pm

So 0.6 doesn't rebuild?

bcnipod · Post by **bcnipod** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:02 pm

WaeV wrote:So 0.6 doesn't rebuild?

no.

DeadHamster · Post by **DeadHamster** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:03 pm

v 0.7.

Doesnt work for me, at all. Probably never will no matter what Alt does.

Works with others to certain extents. From what I heard still needs some fixing

But when it's fully working, modding will be completely changed.

WaeV · Post by **WaeV** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:04 pm

How do I get 0.7, if only to try it out?

Altimit01 · Post by **Altimit01** » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:06 pm

Check your PMs.

Also Dimentio, Eschaton is available for PC and Mac.