Rainbow Theory
Rainbow Theory
Have you guys heard of rainbow theory? <(Real link, not an ad) It touches on a lot of biblical references in the bible. The following is my synopsis.
Basically it starts out by noting the number of sevens. Yeah, we all know that 343 is 7^3, and 2401 is 7^4, and that there are seven halos, and that seven is the holy number of God. There are also seven colors in the rainbow. Hmm... Guilty Spark was blue (or indigo), and Penitent Tangent was red... Mayhaps there is a different colored monitor for each halo of the rainbow? Also, a rainbow is only seen as a U shape because of the horizon. If we could see the full shape of a rainbow it would be a circle - a halo.
now there are also lots of biblical names in Halo. The Covenant, the Flood, the Ark. Anyone remember the story of Noah? God put a rainbow in the sky as his promise that the flood would never reach earth again. If we accept the above paragraph, the rainbow that god put in the sky is the halos, which the powerful forerunners established to contain the flood.
Now how did Noah and his animal buddies survive the flood? In the ark. In the Haloverse, the Ark is the only safe place if the Halos are fired. Once Noah and his wife landed, all of humanity had been washed off the earth and civilization had to be rebuilt, if I remember correctly. In a similar fashion, the Forerunners may have been reduced to a fraction of their former glory. The Forerunners may have influenced our development and made us their heirs. This would also account for the similarities in door sizes, aesthetics, etc.
Basically it starts out by noting the number of sevens. Yeah, we all know that 343 is 7^3, and 2401 is 7^4, and that there are seven halos, and that seven is the holy number of God. There are also seven colors in the rainbow. Hmm... Guilty Spark was blue (or indigo), and Penitent Tangent was red... Mayhaps there is a different colored monitor for each halo of the rainbow? Also, a rainbow is only seen as a U shape because of the horizon. If we could see the full shape of a rainbow it would be a circle - a halo.
now there are also lots of biblical names in Halo. The Covenant, the Flood, the Ark. Anyone remember the story of Noah? God put a rainbow in the sky as his promise that the flood would never reach earth again. If we accept the above paragraph, the rainbow that god put in the sky is the halos, which the powerful forerunners established to contain the flood.
Now how did Noah and his animal buddies survive the flood? In the ark. In the Haloverse, the Ark is the only safe place if the Halos are fired. Once Noah and his wife landed, all of humanity had been washed off the earth and civilization had to be rebuilt, if I remember correctly. In a similar fashion, the Forerunners may have been reduced to a fraction of their former glory. The Forerunners may have influenced our development and made us their heirs. This would also account for the similarities in door sizes, aesthetics, etc.
Last edited by WaeV on Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Rainbow Theory
I'm not going to be bothered to read that all.
What part of this is a theory? Your description is basically just stating what has already been known, and was designed to be fairly obvious.
As I go through the claims:
The numbers of the Monitors as powers of seven is by design, and made very obvious. Nothing important to discuss there.
He's calling Alpha Halo two separate installations, which is simply not accurate. He's manipulating information to fit his claims.
Biblical references are also painfully obvious, by design. Nothing groundbreaking there either.
The seven layers thing makes absolutely no reference to anything in Halo, nor Halo to it. It's just a random thing relating to the number seven, with no relevance whatsoever. Moot point.
Truth was fulfilling the Covenant prophecy. At what point does this indicate a "war against the people of God"? They were following their religion. (Oh, I forgot, what we believe is right and what everyone else believes is wrong. Maybe there is a heavy religious influence here. Cough )
Military designation of letters. k? That has even less to do with anything than all of the other irrelevant stuff.
pH scale has no relevance or connection.
Forerunners can extend life beyond a hard limit that a God can set. Well that's interesting that God can create something that he cannot control, but he can control everything. Welcome to a paradox. Point is moot.
"Also, where was the Ark located in the Bible? On Earth. Where was the Ark located in Halo? Earth." Blatantly wrong.
"If the Forerunners DID build the Ark and use it as a safe-haven while they activated the rest of the rings to save themselves from the Flood, that would explain how mankind started on earth." Mankind was already on Earth when the Forerunners were constructing the portal on Earth. This is another wrong claim.
"Let's say that the Forerunners killed themselves using the Halos because of the Flood outbreak. Then you can say that the Flood infection inherently caused the Fall of the Foreunners, just like in the Bible, the Water Flood caused the Fall of Man." That's not what happened, and the two events are not similar like that.
"This is all a stretch, but that's what theories are, are they not." No, they are not. That is not what a theory is. A theory is not whatever pops into your head, that cannot be backed up with evidence, and is entirely contradictory and illogical. Wrong.
"Shine a light on a glass prism and you get a rainbow. Imagine the ark as a light. Maybe the rings form a prism based on there color. This would pinpoint there position even more." That doesn't even make sense.
There is nothing relevant or worthwhile here, as far as I'm seeing. All of these things are contradictory, illogical, nonsensical, irrelevant, or otherwise stupid. There is nothing definitive, and there's nothing new about 98% of these claims. The people doing this seem to believe that all ideas are equal in validity until disproven directly, which is simply not true. These "theories" are not as solid as the creators would like you to believe, and most of it makes no sense whatsoever when put into the big picture. The one and only thing to come out of this is the Monitor colors, and then everything else is extrapolated to the point of stupidity. They wasted about 10 pages of text to explain one paragraph, the only part of it that is worthwhile. This is mostly just stupid, "hey guys i just thot of dis mb its rite lol" garbage. They would like to think they're visionaries, but really they make very little sense. The difference being that they are surrounded by other people who don't make any sense, and that provides positive reinforcement for their ignorance and logical fallacies.
In short: k, the colors of a rainbow may correspond with Monitors. That is the end of the valid claims in that thread. Everything after that is unfounded, irrelevant, or just plain stupid.
What part of this is a theory? Your description is basically just stating what has already been known, and was designed to be fairly obvious.
As I go through the claims:
The numbers of the Monitors as powers of seven is by design, and made very obvious. Nothing important to discuss there.
He's calling Alpha Halo two separate installations, which is simply not accurate. He's manipulating information to fit his claims.
Biblical references are also painfully obvious, by design. Nothing groundbreaking there either.
The seven layers thing makes absolutely no reference to anything in Halo, nor Halo to it. It's just a random thing relating to the number seven, with no relevance whatsoever. Moot point.
Truth was fulfilling the Covenant prophecy. At what point does this indicate a "war against the people of God"? They were following their religion. (Oh, I forgot, what we believe is right and what everyone else believes is wrong. Maybe there is a heavy religious influence here. Cough )
Military designation of letters. k? That has even less to do with anything than all of the other irrelevant stuff.
pH scale has no relevance or connection.
Forerunners can extend life beyond a hard limit that a God can set. Well that's interesting that God can create something that he cannot control, but he can control everything. Welcome to a paradox. Point is moot.
"Also, where was the Ark located in the Bible? On Earth. Where was the Ark located in Halo? Earth." Blatantly wrong.
"If the Forerunners DID build the Ark and use it as a safe-haven while they activated the rest of the rings to save themselves from the Flood, that would explain how mankind started on earth." Mankind was already on Earth when the Forerunners were constructing the portal on Earth. This is another wrong claim.
"Let's say that the Forerunners killed themselves using the Halos because of the Flood outbreak. Then you can say that the Flood infection inherently caused the Fall of the Foreunners, just like in the Bible, the Water Flood caused the Fall of Man." That's not what happened, and the two events are not similar like that.
"This is all a stretch, but that's what theories are, are they not." No, they are not. That is not what a theory is. A theory is not whatever pops into your head, that cannot be backed up with evidence, and is entirely contradictory and illogical. Wrong.
"Shine a light on a glass prism and you get a rainbow. Imagine the ark as a light. Maybe the rings form a prism based on there color. This would pinpoint there position even more." That doesn't even make sense.
There is nothing relevant or worthwhile here, as far as I'm seeing. All of these things are contradictory, illogical, nonsensical, irrelevant, or otherwise stupid. There is nothing definitive, and there's nothing new about 98% of these claims. The people doing this seem to believe that all ideas are equal in validity until disproven directly, which is simply not true. These "theories" are not as solid as the creators would like you to believe, and most of it makes no sense whatsoever when put into the big picture. The one and only thing to come out of this is the Monitor colors, and then everything else is extrapolated to the point of stupidity. They wasted about 10 pages of text to explain one paragraph, the only part of it that is worthwhile. This is mostly just stupid, "hey guys i just thot of dis mb its rite lol" garbage. They would like to think they're visionaries, but really they make very little sense. The difference being that they are surrounded by other people who don't make any sense, and that provides positive reinforcement for their ignorance and logical fallacies.
In short: k, the colors of a rainbow may correspond with Monitors. That is the end of the valid claims in that thread. Everything after that is unfounded, irrelevant, or just plain stupid.
Re: Rainbow Theory
Well, this was written before Halo 2. (Keep in mind that the post date on the thread is later than the original theory - the link is version 4.0) Most of the inconsistencies you are finding are with the additional theories which I agree are pretty thin. The major connection was tying the biblical references in with the seven colors / halos of the rainbow.
And he doesn't say that Alpha Halo represents two halos, he's saying that the monitor's color could be either blue or indigo, meaning that it could either be halo number six or seven.
Edit: Wait, you're not going to be bothered to read what? You went through pages after pages of additional claims! I only linked the topic as a source so people didn't think I was ripping the guy off, anyways.
And he doesn't say that Alpha Halo represents two halos, he's saying that the monitor's color could be either blue or indigo, meaning that it could either be halo number six or seven.
Edit: Wait, you're not going to be bothered to read what? You went through pages after pages of additional claims! I only linked the topic as a source so people didn't think I was ripping the guy off, anyways.
Re: Rainbow Theory
I decided to read it when I realized I had nothing else to do.WaeV wrote:Well, this was written before Halo 2. (Keep in mind that the post date on the thread is later than the original theory - the link is version 4.0) Most of the inconsistencies you are finding are with the additional theories which I agree are pretty thin. The major connection was tying the biblical references in with the seven colors / halos of the rainbow.
And he doesn't say that Alpha Halo represents two halos, he's saying that the monitor's color could be either blue or indigo, meaning that it could either be halo number six or seven.
Edit: Wait, you're not going to be bothered to read what? You went through pages after pages of additional claims! I only linked the topic as a source so people didn't think I was ripping the guy off, anyways.
"Alpha Halo could be considered as two different Halos"
He's basically saying Blue and Indigo are the same Halo, which completely dismantles his entire theory, because there are then not enough colors. He's trying to have his cake and eat it too, which does not work here.
Re: Rainbow Theory
Translation: Alpha Halo is either blue or indigo, and would then be 5th or 6th in the layout from red to violet.Alpha Halo could be considered as two different Halos, would be coordinated as ‘blue’ or ‘indigo’ and would have been the 5th or 6th, not first.
Re: Rainbow Theory
I misinterpreted that line as saying Indigo was not to be considered one of the primary installations. I was mistaken.Going off of the color-based theory, it would have been indigo because indigo is an OPTIONAL color addition (since indigo is now on shaky ground, it still fits into my theory since Alpha Halo *could have been considered indigo* was destroyed).
Re: Rainbow Theory
Now what?
You have to understand, I didn't get to play the Halo 2 or 3 campaigns until this summer, and I was dying to know the "secrets" of Halo without reading any spoilers, so this was the best I could manage. it seemed to fit pretty well after playing both, and I just found it again so i decided to post it.
You have to understand, I didn't get to play the Halo 2 or 3 campaigns until this summer, and I was dying to know the "secrets" of Halo without reading any spoilers, so this was the best I could manage. it seemed to fit pretty well after playing both, and I just found it again so i decided to post it.
Re: Rainbow Theory
k?
I'm not criticizing you.
I'm not criticizing you.
Re: Rainbow Theory
Yeah, I know. I just felt obligated to go over the 5 word limit. that is a rule, isn't it? Not that it's a life or death situation.
I can see how some people would get annoyed with your manner of responding to posts, though I get where you're coming from. In your first post the general vibe was that "you're stupid to post this," but I realize that you're just making a rational argument. W/e.
I can see how some people would get annoyed with your manner of responding to posts, though I get where you're coming from. In your first post the general vibe was that "you're stupid to post this," but I realize that you're just making a rational argument. W/e.
Re: Rainbow Theory
It was more of "They're stupid to think so long about this, because the longer they think about it, the more likely they are to believe stupid things."
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Re: Rainbow Theory
Every time I go to Bungie.net, I gather further proof that intelligent life does not truly exist on Earth. Nor does God exist; he wouldn't be so cruel as to let such a place exist.
The "theory" pretty much proves that Bungie likes the number 7.
Way to go?
The "theory" pretty much proves that Bungie likes the number 7.
Way to go?
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Re: Rainbow Theory
It uses the knowledge that Bungie likes sevens as well as the scattered biblical references to connect the dots and tie the plot to Noah and the rainbow.
So the point is that the halos represent the promise that the flood will never reach Earth, not that Bungie likes sevens.
So the point is that the halos represent the promise that the flood will never reach Earth, not that Bungie likes sevens.
Re: Rainbow Theory
So?
The "theory" has no purpose, it's not giving any useful information. The whole things is nothing. There's nothing to come from it. It's entirely pointless.
The "theory" has no purpose, it's not giving any useful information. The whole things is nothing. There's nothing to come from it. It's entirely pointless.
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Re: Rainbow Theory
You can't have a theory that proves that...The game told us that. It's like... the main point of the game. Halo destroys the flood; saves humanity. That's... pretty much the point of the game. It's not something that needs to be proven.WaeV wrote:So the point is that the halos represent the promise that the flood will never reach Earth, not that Bungie likes sevens.
He pretty much connected it all to the number 7, and biblical references.
So I expand my initial comment. Not only does it prove that Bungie likes 7s, it also proves that Bungie likes to connect things to the Bible.
Yet again, way to go?
Eh, but really, I'm done. I'm not arguing further over this, when it is entirely pointless.
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Re: Rainbow Theory
Maybe it's good to link things to the bible. It's a well known story, full of mysticism in it's own right, has very old roots, and is very open ended. Thats like skipping a stone across a pond and saying it's the rock incarnate of Jesus.
Re: Rainbow Theory
I agree with the first part of your post, but I'm not getting the rock metaphor.
But... rainbows...Aumaan Anubis wrote:You can't have a theory that proves that...The game told us that. It's like... the main point of the game. Halo destroys the flood; saves humanity. That's... pretty much the point of the game. It's not something that needs to be proven.WaeV wrote:So the point is that the halos represent the promise that the flood will never reach Earth, not that Bungie likes sevens.
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Re: Rainbow Theory
Oh gawdz I frgt abut the rainbows.WaeV wrote:But... rainbows...
Bungie likes dem too.
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Re: Rainbow Theory
The story in the bible is so open ended that if you look at normal things in a different perspective, bible related conclusions may be drawn. Hence the many different branches, enclaves and creeds of Christianity. it's all the same story, all from the same book(s). Just every one of them practices differently, delivers the message differently, and reads it differently.WaeV wrote:I agree with the first part of your post, but I'm not getting the rock metaphor.
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Re: Rainbow Theory
Walking on water.WaeV wrote:I agree with the first part of your post, but I'm not getting the rock metaphor.
The colors are just a very loose connection. Look, we've seen two Monitors! One's red, the other is blue, they MUST be representative of the colors of the rainbow!
All of the biblical metaphors are so in your face that it's not a "theory" when someone presents the information. They're not named "Ark" and "Flood" for no reason.
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Re: Rainbow Theory
You're right, they aren't. But I don't think that it's a coincidence that they come from the same story. And since the rainbow was the promise that the flood would never reach earth, and the halos are the promise that the flood doesn't infect all life, it follows that the Halos ~= a rainbow.