Official Xbox 360 Discussion!

Excal · Post by **Excal** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:14 pm

Too bad Bill Gates didn't make a penny off of Xbox. =\

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:54 pm

HunterXI wrote:Because he wants to make money. Wake up. Every businessman's dream is to sell you their every product and to make a good profit, not just Microsoft.

Except, 1: He has more than enough money already, 2: He has no reason to go after Ipods and Google. MSN search was useless and low income anyway.

Spartan Sniper · Post by **Spartan Sniper** » Tue May 24, 2005 12:55 pm

I really want to get xbox 360 when it comes out

jks · Post by **jks** » Tue May 24, 2005 1:19 pm

Who was it that always got pissed with that? Its games not the consoles that make more money, XI I think it was you,

oh well...

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Tue May 24, 2005 1:25 pm

I'm getting a PS3. It's far superior in hardware and in games. Not that I wouldn't like having Halo3 and PD:0, just that I'd like far more things on PS3.

I'll probably end up only being able to afford a revolution though. =/

gmp_gmp · Post by **gmp_gmp** » Tue May 24, 2005 1:38 pm

Xbox360 and Revolution for me, same as last time (Xbox1 + Gamecube). I am an old nintendo fan along with xbox

... And Revolution being able to DL old games to the console to play....is just awesome for people like me. Xbox360 continues to be my fave...due to the halo series and PD:0 and other games =)

Death to Sony

Excal · Post by **Excal** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:09 pm

gmp_gmp wrote:Death to Sony

I couldn't have said it better myself.

jks · Post by **jks** » Wed May 25, 2005 1:20 pm

All of my friends are saying that Xbox 360 is gonna be a rip off... so Im getting a PS3 first... its just so much better.

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:16 pm

Dan!! wrote:I'm getting a PS3. It's far superior in hardware and in games. Not that I wouldn't like having Halo3 and PD:0, just that I'd like far more things on PS3.

I'll probably end up only being able to afford a revolution though. =/

Random, but M$ actually wrote an interesting paper how Sony's showing off nice specs but not delivering here. They fib the numbers a little but make some interesting points.

And Sony's even announced any games at this point? Cuz if so, I haven't heard about 'em...

Danke · Post by **Danke** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:10 am

MS didn't write that. It's a reworking of http://www.majornelson.com Sony vs. XBOX thing. Which has been torn apart plenty of times because it's just lazy guesswork.

I'll just quote someone else, because I'm lazy:

CPU

Major Nelson's chart of a 1 teraflop Xbox 360 CPU is false. Official specs confirm that is collective processing power of the Xbox 360. Including the GPU. Once again, like I've said several times, a GPU that's suppose to run extreme specific and unflexible programming at insanely fast speeds. GPUs runs circles around CPUs in terms of pure speed. If you take what his chart says, that means each core can do 333GFLOPs. Lies and a house of them, considering the top-of-the-line G5s dual-cored at 2.7GHz can manage about 25GFLOPs. And those run 8 processes at a time. The TC may be faster, but not that much. You don't extract that much power by moving into in-order processing, adding a core, downgrading to two threads at once and raising the clockspeed. And Cell has 9 general purpose processors, not 1, that fucking dipshit. Considering the SPEs can be configured to run different codes and Altivec-derived instruction sets, I'd say they're general purpose. The reason they have no cache is because they're using the much more flexible and exact local memory, which adds up actually to have more storage than the 360 CPU.

GPU

Do I even have to look at this section? ALL OF IT'S SPECULATION AND GUESSES BY NELSON. Really, do you think that a next-gen GPU by nVidia would be slightly better than it's 6800 Ultras (which is pretty much what he's saying through all that perpetual bullshit) when one of them can outdo two?

Memory Bandwidth

Way to only include the main memory bandwidth for the Playstation 3, yet toss in the 256GB/s EDRAM that the CPU has no access to. Oops.

{ST} 117 · Post by **{ST} 117** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:29 am

gmp_gmp wrote:Xbox360 and Revolution for me, same as last time (Xbox1 + Gamecube). I am an old nintendo fan along with xbox ... And Revolution being able to DL old games to the console to play....is just awesome for people like me. Xbox360 continues to be my fave...due to the halo series and PD:0 and other games =)

Death to Sony

totally agreed.

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Mon May 30, 2005 5:09 am

Dan!! wrote:MS didn't write that. It's a reworking of http://www.majornelson.com Sony vs. XBOX thing. Which has been torn apart plenty of times because it's just lazy guesswork.

I'll just quote someone else, because I'm lazy:

Need I remind you that Major Nelson works for Microsoft?

JK-47 · Post by **JK-47** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:53 am

i despise the xbox 360, i dont want it to come out, because that means i have to go out and buy it, i dont like buying new game systems!

i just barley got the origonal XBOX, i got a refurbished one a year ago, but when i turned it on, smoke came out of it

they better make halo 3 for pc.

Rallos · Post by **Rallos** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:21 am

I just pre-ordered a 360 at gamestop, along with ElderScrolls: Oblivion.

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:02 am

Rallos wrote:I just pre-ordered a 360 at gamestop, along with ElderScrolls: Oblivion.

Mah man! I was just about to go out and do the same.

Viper2004 · Post by **Viper2004** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:38 pm

Excalibur wrote:Too bad Bill Gates didn't make a penny off of Xbox. =\

What are you on about it was his company that made it, so of course he got money of it, although it wouldn't have a made any difference to his Bank Balance since he has so many Billions just sitting there.

HunterXI · Post by **HunterXI** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:08 pm

jks wrote:All of my friends are saying that Xbox 360 is gonna be a rip off... so Im getting a PS3 first... its just so much better.

Random and delayed point, but off of what are you basing both of those arguments?

RC Master · Post by **RC Master** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:19 am

HunterXI wrote:
jks wrote:All of my friends are saying that Xbox 360 is gonna be a rip off... so Im getting a PS3 first... its just so much better.
Random and delayed point, but off of what are you basing both of those arguments?

Clearly Because of what his 'friend' said. Since it's his 'friend' said it the statement must be true.

Never mind the fact that the 360 will be cheaper from the start and it is likely that games may also be cheaper. As they are using DVD's which are now much cheaper to make. Rather than the Blu-ray discs that can't even be spelled BLUE-ray because of some copyright/trademark dispute it would cause.

jks · Post by **jks** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:56 am

Well, Im a tried and true playstation junkie before my devotion to the xbox, it was the first system I ever played and I get that nice nostalgic feeling whenever playing, like for instance the first Ratchet and Clank. I just feel that the PS3 will be better though I aim to get them both in due time.

Excal · Post by **Excal** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:40 am

Viper2004 wrote:
Excalibur wrote:Too bad Bill Gates didn't make a penny off of Xbox. =\
What are you on about it was his company that made it, so of course he got money of it, although it wouldn't have a made any difference to his Bank Balance since he has so many Billions just sitting there.

If you read magazine articles... you would know that the money he made off Xbox was just enough to cover the price of making all of it... so technically, he didn't make any profit.