XZodia's Plugin's

[Eaton]

There should be a community project to redo all of the plugins correctly. It would take a long time, but it would really make a huge difference in the long run.

[grimdoomer]

I have a bunch of updated raw plugins im going to post soon. Lots of stuff labled correctly and some new stuff for ugh.

[xzodia]

Theres alot jacked up for HUD >_< had to fix em.

Like the [Do] and [Don't] bitmasks.

Hahaha yea the draw and don't draw ones, there all labeled so poorly and incorrect.

Well no, the labels are correct. It's the value sizes and offsets that are wrong. Some of those flags are incorrectly labeled as bitmask8's when all of them should be bitmask16's.

shit happens

[pokecancer]

How messed up are the plugins? Is it just wrong labels and wrong types? If I had a good set of plugins, I might be tempted to start work on something.

[kibito87]

How messed up are the plugins? Is it just wrong labels and wrong types? If I had a good set of plugins, I might be tempted to start work on something.

Somebody get this man a good set of plugins stat... SERIOUSLY.

[JacksonCougAr]

How messed up are the plugins? Is it just wrong labels and wrong types? If I had a good set of plugins, I might be tempted to start work on something.

I gave up on working with any values other than those that are sure-bets, or as close to that as I can get. By this I mean I just use reflexive offsets and size, and SIDs, Idents, strings, and a few other dependable values. The rest I double check before I implement them into anything hardcoded.

[grimdoomer]

I can get you a semi good set, talk to me on aim.

[Eaton]

pokecancer!!! Well, there main problems with the plugins are the labels. There will be things like "Label = "Blah"". Just remove the text and the plugin should work.

[xzodia]

pokecancer!!! Well, there main problems with the plugins are the labels. There will be things like "Label = "Blah"". Just remove the text and the plugin should work

thats only a problem with the chunk cloner, which doesnt work well anyway

[MrMurder]

How messed up are the plugins? Is it just wrong labels and wrong types? If I had a good set of plugins, I might be tempted to start work on something.

Holydogtoffee Poke! damn and people say i go into hiding alot hope your doing ok.
If anyone out there can figuer out the blind spots in the plugins its you.

There should be a community project to redo all of the plugins correctly. It would take a long time, but it would really make a huge difference in the long run.

I simply couldnt agree more.

[xzodia]

There should be a community project to redo all of the plugins correctly. It would take a long time, but it would really make a huge difference in the long run.

I simply couldnt agree more.

It has begun.

[OwnZ joO]

[TroyMac1ure]

pokecancer!!! Well, there main problems with the plugins are the labels. There will be things like "Label = "Blah"". Just remove the text and the plugin should work

thats only a problem with the chunk cloner, which doesnt work well anyway

I've been looking through this alot. The fix I did a while ago actually addressed more than I settled on. The offsets for the sbsp and ltmp tags are stored after many other tags even though their offset is the closest to the start of the file. Any clones done before their tag listing was adding extra size to the map (and possibly messing stuff up).

As for cloning issues with the scnr tag, it is plugin related. I have been going through it and there are sections of the sncr tag that get dropped when cloning because they don't "exist" properly in the tag.
There is a section just before or after the "Weather Palette" section that is missing I know. Lists the sbsp tag and some other info.
Working towards getting a scnr plugin that is correct enough to allow cloning.

[grimdoomer]

pokecancer!!! Well, there main problems with the plugins are the labels. There will be things like "Label = "Blah"". Just remove the text and the plugin should work

thats only a problem with the chunk cloner, which doesnt work well anyway

I've been looking through this alot. The fix I did a while ago actually addressed more than I settled on. The offsets for the sbsp and ltmp tags are stored after many other tags even though their offset is the closest to the start of the file. Any clones done before their tag listing was adding extra size to the map (and possibly messing stuff up).

As for cloning issues with the scnr tag, it is plugin related. I have been going through it and there are sections of the sncr tag that get dropped when cloning because they don't "exist" properly in the tag.
There is a section just before or after the "Weather Palette" section that is missing I know. Lists the sbsp tag and some other info.
Working towards getting a scnr plugin that is correct enough to allow cloning.

BSP and Lightmap meta is way before the entire meta table and only needs to be updated when manipulating chunks in those tags. You aslo don't have to shift every reflexive below them. only fix the lightmap offset, along with raw offsets. The scenario is only missing reflexives that don't appear in any map, and since we dont have them in the game, they are said to be unused. I'm working on a complete scnr plugin atm, but I know what the reflexive you speak of, Structure BSPs is there.

[TroyMac1ure]

As for cloning issues with the scnr tag, it is plugin related. I have been going through it and there are sections of the sncr tag that get dropped when cloning because they don't "exist" properly in the tag.
There is a section just before or after the "Weather Palette" section that is missing I know. Lists the sbsp tag and some other info.
Working towards getting a scnr plugin that is correct enough to allow cloning.

BSP and Lightmap meta is way before the entire meta table and only needs to be updated when manipulating chunks in those tags. You aslo don't have to shift every reflexive below them. only fix the lightmap offset, along with raw offsets. The scenario is only missing reflexives that don't appear in any map, and since we dont have them in the game, they are said to be unused. I'm working on a complete scnr plugin atm, but I know what the reflexive you speak of, Structure BSPs is there.

It's not the Structure BSPs. It's after that. The "Scenario Resources" come next, which were being missed in the cloning as well, but I created a new variable sized string declaration in Entity, and changed the References to a String4 since "*cen" doesn't exist within the tags. There is another section that gets lost just after the "Weather Palette" sections.
Here is a sample (taken from Ascension):

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06670  BA BA BA BA │ BA BA BA BA │ BA BA BA BA │ 61 73 63 65   ║║║║║║║║║║║║asce
06680  6E 73 69 6F │ 6E 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   nsion...........
06690  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 64 6E 73 6C   ............dnsl
066A0  E6 06 5B E8 │ FF FF FF FF │ FF FF FF FF │ 00 00 00 00   µ♠[Φ        ....
066B0  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
066C0  00 00 00 40 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ...@............
066D0  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
066E0  63 6C 69 66 │ 66 73 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   cliffs..........
066F0  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
06700  65 64 6E 73 │ EC 06 61 E8 │ 00 00 00 40 │ 00 00 00 00   edns∞♠aΦ...@....
06710  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
06720  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 70 73 62 73 │ FF FF FF FF   ........psbs    
06730  07 00 00 00 │ F4 2B 1C 80 │ 07 00 00 00 │ F4 2B 1C 80   ....⌠+∟Ç....⌠+∟Ç
06740  0D 07 0F 14 │ 07 00 00 00 │ 10 2C 1C 80 │ 07 00 00 00   ♪.☼¶....►,∟Ç....
06750  64 2C 1C 80 │ 07 00 00 00 │ 64 2C 1C 80 │ 00 00 00 00   d,∟Ç....d,∟Ç....
06760  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
06770  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 4E 48 52 41 │ 9F 94 52 41   ........NHRAƒöRA
06780  E6 3C 83 C0 │ 00 46 D2 C0 │ C0 B4 00 C1 │ 4C C0 67 C1   µ<â└.F╥└└┤.┴L└g┴
06790  1B AE 9E C1 │ 6A 66 26 C0 │ 00 69 01 BF │ C5 F2 40 C0   ←«₧┴jf&└.i☺┐┼≥@└
067A0  98 52 89 C1 │ 67 C0 D7 C0 │ 4E 48 52 41 │ 66 66 26 C0   ÿRë┴g└╫└NHRAff&└
067B0  6E B0 20 C1 │ C9 F2 40 C0 │ 86 50 52 41 │ FE 80 1C C1   n░ ┴╔≥@└åPRA■Ç∟┴
067C0  B6 5A 40 C0 │ 0C 4A 26 C0 │ 8C 3C 11 C1 │ FF FF 00 00   ╢Z@└♀J&└î<◄┴  ..
067D0  FF FF 00 00 │ FF FF 00 00 │ FF FF 00 00 │ FF FF 00 00     ..  ..  ..  ..
067E0  FF FF 00 00 │ FF FF 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00     ..  ..........
067F0  00 00 20 C1 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   .. ┴............

At 6728h above, there is a listing to the sbsp tag, -1 as well as some more data (down to about 67F0h). At current this data is not recognized and is among other data that is 'tossed out' when cloning. This comes just after any "Weather Palette" data (can be seen in Backwash for example).

I have noticed when a meta is cloned in the SCNR tag, then deleted, the resulting size is less than the original. I know for sure the "Scenario Resources" was being missed (fixed) and this section and I know others are as well because there is still size being lost.

Here is a sample after a clone/delete (Line 67F0h has moved to 6730h):

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06670  BA BA BA BA │ BA BA BA BA │ BA BA BA BA │ 61 73 63 65   ║║║║║║║║║║║║asce
06680  6E 73 69 6F │ 6E 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   nsion...........
06690  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 64 6E 73 6C   ............dnsl
066A0  E6 06 5B E8 │ FF FF FF FF │ FF FF FF FF │ 00 00 00 00   µ♠[Φ        ....
066B0  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
066C0  00 00 00 40 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ...@............
066D0  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
066E0  63 6C 69 66 │ 66 73 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   cliffs..........
066F0  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
06700  65 64 6E 73 │ EC 06 61 E8 │ 00 00 00 40 │ 00 00 00 00   edns∞♠aΦ...@....
06710  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
06720  00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   ................
06730  00 00 20 C1 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00 │ 00 00 00 00   .. ┴............

[bloompyle]

I feel like such a noob I stopped modding for like 4 years for school, then I come back and I can't remember how to do AI, when I do from a tut I get errors...I don't know how, or even what program these plugins are for (I hope dothalo, cuz its the only one I can remember how to use) I can't even apply a patch with serenity ... oh blargh ((((

[Aumaan Anubis]

We didn't have AI four years ago.
Released plugins are typically for Entity; I suggest you learn to use it, it is commonly used today, due to supposed superiority over DotHalo.

[OwnZ joO]

We didn't have AI four years ago.
Released plugins are typically for Entity; I suggest you learn to use it, it is commonly used today, due to supposed superiority over DotHalo.

Define Superior...

[Aumaan Anubis]

We didn't have AI four years ago.
Released plugins are typically for Entity; I suggest you learn to use it, it is commonly used today, due to supposed superiority over DotHalo.

Define Superior...

Note my use of "supposed superiority." I'm not quite sure whether I believe one is better than the other.

But if I had to define it, I'd say that because Entity appears more professional, polished, allows easy placement and lightmap edits through the BSP Viewer; it now has PMI, among probably a few other unmentioned things.
Now, I'm not quite sure if DotHalo has the capability of a Script Editor, or even model injection, as it's been awhile since I've used it, but I'm quite positive that it doesn't have a BSP Viewer.
As well, the "professional, polished," is just from my point of view, but I think that can be mutually agreed upon.

[TroyMac1ure]

Grimdoomer, you said you were working on a SCNR plugin. This is the section I was talking about. It was completely missed in previous SCNR plugins:

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  <struct name="Unkown" offset="656" size="52">
    <tag name="SBSP" offset="0" visible="True" />
    <id name="-1" offset="4" visible="True" />
    <struct name="sub1" offset="8" size="4">
      <int name="Unknown" offset="0" visible="True" />
    </struct>
    <struct name="sub2" offset="16" size="4">
      <int name="Unknown" offset="0" visible="True" />
    </struct>
    <float name="Unknown" offset="24" visible="True" />
    <struct name="sub3" offset="28" size="12">
      <float name="Unknown" offset="0" visible="True" />
      <float name="Unknown" offset="4" visible="True" />
      <float name="Unknown" offset="8" visible="True" />
    </struct>
    <struct name="sub4" offset="36" size="4">
      <int name="Unknown" offset="0" visible="True" />
    </struct>
    <struct name="sub5" offset="44" size="4">
      <int name="Unknown" offset="0" visible="True" />
    </struct>
  </struct>

There are a few problems with it that need to be fixed from the Entity/editor end for these plugins to work properly.
I have discovered these three issues:
1) SBSP, -1 tags are shown as null, null.
2) In this section Sub1 & Sub2 and Sub4 & Sub5 have the same offsets in some maps (share data). When trying to clone it duplicates these sections.
3) Maps such as backwash, containment, derelict, etc have [Script String Data] and this data needs to be DWord padded I believe. In these maps, the [Script String Data] is a Word short of a DWord alignment, so two <random> bytes are thrown in to pad it.