Ripping ce content, allowed or not?

[[Spawn]]

At first ce content wasnt allowed to b ripped, i heard now ur allowed to rip it, can u?

[Halo Racer]

NO.

Do not rip CE content. There is NO point. If you want CE stuff, just go ahead and dl CE. Plus, when you convert it, you still don't get the saem effects.

Just don't do it, unless you want trouble...

[crackpot]

I want trouble..... UP MY ***! joke but seriosly , spawn, i told u ,rip CE sh!t and post it here,,,,, i ....um....think itslike ......a strike.....times.....ooh i dont know ......10 million times!....which is ( i think )a temporarly ban of 2 weeks............times .....10 MILLION!

[SoulD3stroyer]

your rigth in some stuff

[CtrlAltDestroy]

First of all, there is NO official rule against CE ripping, only Halo 2 ripping. So go ahead, rip from CE all you want, just make sure you have permission.

Second of all, you CE people put Halo PC bipeds, BSPs, etc... in YOUR maps, so why can't we put YOUR content in OUR mods?

[4601 GT]

I'm a PC person, but i think it's because alot of times thier stuff is custom,i can see the point in us not using that stuff, but if you mean stuff like regular elites and MC's(Master Chiefs), that should be ok. Just taking skins and stuff cool to me, but when you take custom made models, or hand built models, i think that's taking it a step too far.

[Halo Racer]

Ok, but you still have to get permission. And all the H2 team for CE doesnt not want ANY of their content ripped. It's fine, but you HAVE to get permission. And currently, not alot of CE folks want their stuff taken.

[DECOY]

At first ce content wasnt allowed to b ripped, i heard now ur allowed to rip it, can u?

It's a matter of Ethics.

If you create CE content yourself and port or rip it to a PC version, thats
one thing, I think it fair to say "you built it, you use it."
If you rip somene elses content, to me thats no different to reposting
someones mod as your own, without their permission.

Regardless of the format, no one wants their mods ripped up and
reposted by others as part of "new" work.

Even you would be pi$$ed Spawn, if you posted a mod and the next day
bits of it were appearing all over the forum in other peoples mods,
without your permission.
You have been known to occassionaly express er, "concern" at the low
standard of some of the mods being posted. I have heard it said that this
quality would go up if ripping were allowed.

But I think if members could openly rip stuff without permission from the
few who build, then they would not need to learn much more than that,
and I think the standard would go down not up.

If someone builds a mod, and then posts it here for
others to enjoy I think the content should be protected.

[overdrive]

ok, but what about this. Since maps are posted free, you are giving your stuff away for free. If a map is free, why shouldn't the models in it be also?? Consider the counterstrike modding community. All of the new stuff (weapons, scenery, etc.) is public, and thus the modding community is huge. Us on the other hand, though we mod a cooler game, we say "oh no, make your own tags and models!" What's the worst one can do for ripping content from a free map? Tell them to please stop? I have ripped the gauss warthog meta and model from wartorncove (for MY coagulation map), and as long as you give the creators or the original source credit, I don't see a problem. If the stuff was available like the counterstrike stuff is, we wouldn't have these problems.
Also, what about ripping BSPs? Is it illegal to rip the BSPs (only those) from halo 2 and use them to make CE maps?
If it is only a matter of ethics, then shouldn't complain about another's judgement. *steps off soapbox*[/u]

[Halo Racer]

The map with the content is free. The content alone is not unless you have permission.