[Halo 2 Rendering] Creating and postioning your Biped TuT

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:51 pm

Hi, if you are wondering how to position and/or create a Biped so then you can use the skin modifier/or Phisyque modifier to pose, then you are at the right place. This TuT is very detailed in pics so it is really easy. Note: I'm not showing you how to use the Skin or Phisyque modifier only creating the Biped and positioning it.

Creating the Biped

First You want to open 3ds Max( I have version 9, so my controls might a wee bee different if you have a different version.) Open you MC, then Click Create>Systems>Biped

Next is setup the Biped. You do this by looking at the right side of your screen. There should be a Biped Tool Box kinda of thing. Change the Spine links to 2
Fingers to 5
Finger links to 3

Positioning Biped

IMPORTANT

First before you doing anything go into figure mode.

Next Create the Biped by click in the Window showed in picture and drag up to around the Mc Head.

Next go the the windows to the left of it. Click the rotation tool and rotate the biped around so it is facing the way showed in the pic.

Next move the biped into the MC's mesh. DO this by clicking the pointer tool and click the red arrow to move the biped.

Next we will make the screen bigger. By click the button that makes it bigger, look at pic lol.

We will work on the leg next. All instructions are in the pics for the leg.

Now on to other leg but 3ds Max 9 has a wonderful feature called COPY/PASTE!!!!! So roll the right side of the 3ds max down to copy/paste and Follow the next set of pictures.

WOO HOO done with LEG legs go to the head, if you have one, jk.

Follow this pic to position the head.

First SAVE. Next is the ARM. Follow these sets of pic to position the arm.

Note you may need to move the calvicle down.And for the fingers no pics but usually all you need to do it rotate them down a wee bit. After this you can copy and paste, the same way you did for the legs.

And you should be DONE!! SAVE and apply the material to check if the biped is showing if it is adjust the biped as needed. Thanks for reading good luck on your Halo 2 Render and I hoped you earned something from this, and if you need pics on a specific thing post here and I will try to get it in as soon as possible.

Darco · Post by **Darco** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:58 pm

you didnt actually explain how to use a skin/physique modifier. setting the bones is really the easiest part.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:05 pm

Few things:
Your rotational coordinates are off because you didn't use the Angle Snap or manual inputs.
You didn't properly center the bipd with the mesh which is easily done with the coordinate inputs.
You posed the entire bipd without ever scaling the bones to actually fit the mesh.

This tutorial is very improper and leaves many errors.

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:12 pm

Darco wrote:you didnt actually explain how to use a skin/physique modifier. setting the bones is really the easiest part.

Never said I would do that, I clearly sated that it is just the biped creation and positioning.

Tural: i guess its not at all the best but enough to get maybe the just of it?

TomClancey · Post by **TomClancey** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:36 pm

Well, it'd be nice if you posted how to do the skin/physique modifier.

birdman · Post by **birdman** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:56 pm

how do you make the perspective view in wireframe?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:04 pm

It looks like his was done via materials, but I believe F3 toggles true wireframe.

birdman · Post by **birdman** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:11 pm

when i try to turn my guy at the very first, it just tweakes his body in crazy angles.

Is there a certain thing that has to be selected to turn the whole body as one? I tried highlighting the whole biped but still wont turn properly....

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:49 pm

I didn't really understand what you said but I think you are asking if you need to attach the parts. Ans the answer is Yes you need to attach all the parts do this by Right clicking on part and then left cclick the rest of the Mc's parts.

birdman · Post by **birdman** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:37 pm

ok im talkin bout my biped, when i try to alighn him his arms goes behind head and so forth

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:52 pm

Can you take a pic. Right now your best bet is to just start all over. I usually restart my biped many times, and I am again trying to do whaat Tural said so I can make the tut better.

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:13 pm

Tural wrote:Few things:
Your rotational coordinates are off because you didn't use the Angle Snap or manual inputs.
You didn't properly center the bipd with the mesh which is easily done with the coordinate inputs.
You posed the entire bipd without ever scaling the bones to actually fit the mesh.

This tutorial is very improper and leaves many errors.

Hey Tural Can you help me center the biped, I used the Angle Snap and I got a perfect 90 Degree rotation, I'm guessing that's right. Well how do i find the coordinate inputs or is it guesswork?

birdman · Post by **birdman** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:08 pm

hwo do you apply it? the tut didnt explain that

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:57 am

You cannot apply the Biped to the mesh. You have to use the Skin or Phisyque modifier.

Here's a video Tut by Jahrain to use the skin modifier. http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=1262

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:22 am

squid267 wrote:Well how do i find the coordinate inputs or is it guesswork?

At the bottom of the Max window you can see three text boxes (X, Y and Z). These are your coordinate inputs in which you can enter specific values depending on which tool you have selected.

birdman · Post by **birdman** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:54 am

lolz ok my biped is hanging out everywhere, i cant get the skin right, i am SICK of doing this so...........................

im willing to pay, eigher pay-pal, or sending thru mail, etc for a rigged MC, i can send you my MC and one of you can rig it.......

I read u can but fully rigged models for 15 bucks, so im willing to pay that just for the biped rigging.....

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:51 pm

There are two reasons why I will not do that:

1) I do not know how well of a job I can do without learning a couple of more stuff about the biped such as scaling, coordinate inputs in such.

2) People should try to experiment, and learn by themselves looking for the easy way out ain't going help when you try modeling weapons and such.

And Tural I know how to scale the bones, but I'm not exactly sure like how much should I scale. Should I scale them to the edge of the Mc Mesh?

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:55 pm

The thickness isn't nearly as important as the length.

Edit: I just re-read this post.
Needless to say, I laughed.

birdman · Post by **birdman** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:32 pm

ok it was worth a try tho....lol....it aint letting me move head or move clavicle into place which screws the whole rig up....any suggestions?

squid267 · Post by **squid267** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:56 pm

Haha! Lolzers. Birdman, are you sure clicked the claviccle because sometimes you think you clicked but it actually click a part of the mesh.