Sandbox 3.3

XxPTLegitxX · Post by **XxPTLegitxX** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:28 am

Thanks shade, your a big help to the community, and hope to see you continue your work.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 11:48 am

SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:Nvm, this is useless because only like 10 people can inject files in a CON container

Are those the same ten people with any hex editor and more than 6 brain cells? As shade said, it is incredibly easy to take things out of and put them into containers, and it always has been. That has never been an issue preventing modding, at all.

preston566 · Post by **preston566** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:31 pm

Beautiful App. We're finally starting to make a better role on this!

xzodia · Post by **xzodia** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:00 pm

Tural wrote:
SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:Nvm, this is useless because only like 10 people can inject files in a CON container
Are those the same ten people with any hex editor and more than 6 brain cells? As shade said, it is incredibly easy to take things out of and put them into containers, and it always has been. That has never been an issue preventing modding, at all.

...yea, but the container would need to be resigned/rehashed etc though wouldn't it?

unknownv2 · Post by **unknownv2** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:05 pm

xzodia wrote:
Tural wrote:
SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:Nvm, this is useless because only like 10 people can inject files in a CON container
Are those the same ten people with any hex editor and more than 6 brain cells? As shade said, it is incredibly easy to take things out of and put them into containers, and it always has been. That has never been an issue preventing modding, at all.
...yea, but the container would need to be resigned/rehashed etc though wouldn't it?

It always needs to be rehashed and resigned. This is for the people who can get that done.

loveandhatejw · Post by **loveandhatejw** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:29 pm

Edited it a bit but very clean and easy to use.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:48 pm

shade45 wrote:
SPARTAN-OMEGA wrote:I love you shade this is so much easier than HxD

Nvm, this is useless because only like 10 people can inject files in a CON container
Just read the tutorial and extracting and reverse the process

All you need to do is find the offset of the usermap in the CON file and paste it over.

Thats what I usually do, I thought since you had to extract the sandbox.map youd have to reinject it. I see its just to help you find the value and what to paste

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:51 pm

I'm surprised that nobody has released an injector if it is this simple... But doing it in hex is enough for me.

LuxuriousMeat · Post by **LuxuriousMeat** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:00 pm

Eaton wrote:I'm surprised that nobody has released an injector if it is this simple... But doing it in hex is enough for me.

It's not as simple if the file is larger than 696320 bytes, as the data starts to shift after that threshold.

Eaton · Post by **Eaton** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:02 pm

LuxuriousMeat wrote:
Eaton wrote:I'm surprised that nobody has released an injector if it is this simple... But doing it in hex is enough for me.
It's not as simple if the file is larger than 696320 bytes, as the data starts to shift after that threshold.

Oh, I see. But Forge maps aren't that big.

Anthony · Post by **Anthony** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:08 pm

Eaton wrote:
LuxuriousMeat wrote:
Eaton wrote:I'm surprised that nobody has released an injector if it is this simple... But doing it in hex is enough for me.
It's not as simple if the file is larger than 696320 bytes, as the data starts to shift after that threshold.
Oh, I see. But Forge maps aren't that big.

Shows how much you know >_>

Veegie · Post by **Veegie** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:19 pm

preston566 wrote:Beautiful App. We're finally starting to make a better role on this!

You are?

XxPTLegitxX · Post by **XxPTLegitxX** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:00 pm

You should of add an option to edit the budget of the variant.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:09 pm

In theory, couldn't you just reduce the cost of objects to a low amount and achieve the same effect?

XxPTLegitxX · Post by **XxPTLegitxX** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:22 pm

Tural wrote:In theory, couldn't you just reduce the cost of objects to a low amount and achieve the same effect?

Yes, but Having a option to edit the budget would be alot quicker.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:40 pm

Tural I think has the better plan seeing that if you edit the usermap in forge the modded objects wont spawn anymore.

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:47 pm

Tru.dat
Modding the budget would only matter if you were planning to just mod that, then place everything normally in Forge; I imagine this is about 0.1% of the people looking to mod Forge variants.
Also, if you resaved it, I'm not sure if it would save the modded budget anyways, meaning it would be completely useless to modify that value.

mxrider108 · Post by **mxrider108** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:56 pm

In my experience changing the costs / budget stuff has absolutely no effect when you load the map in forge. Don't ask me why, but that's what happens.

SPARTAN-OMEGA · Post by **SPARTAN-OMEGA** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:36 pm

I think hes saying itll load fine just, but if you save it the budget edit becomes useless

Tural · Post by **Tural** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:40 pm

No, he's saying that regardless of what you make the budget, that change doesn't appear in-game.